How Gear Swapping Works: Simple Macros for the Simple Minded

[Kensagaku]

@Rosina

This isn't FFXIV. Take that part of the discussion elsewhere. I know you're trying to compare the layouts but let's focus on the task at hand rather than flouting ourselves, shall we? I'm glad you're all organized and whatnot, but we're not talking about you in this thread so please don't derail it. Instead we're focusing on offering macro advice for those who could benefit from it. No defenses/insults/ohmygodwhyareyousomeans from you, please just either contribute or leave this thread alone. If you want to fight it out, put up your dukes in a thread that wouldn't be vital to new players looking for advice.

That aside, it wasn't a necessary critique, nor did it actually contribute to the guide. The layout is organized into simple sections that are easy enough to identify, and with a little work can easily be implemented into any melee job. Mages can learn from it too, though they'd simply have to learn how to piece theirs together into a different sort of coherence so that they can locate their macros simply. The spoilers could be replaced by quotes but really it's meant to sort of block off the beginning and the end of the the macro lines. Ascetically it looks pretty good, honestly.

Now let it go, so we can work on improving this guide for people who actually use it. You don't use gear swaps, as you said, so I don't see why you're going to insert your presence in here anyway.

Edits because I got ninja'd on posts:

More @Rosina, first of all. You really can't stop just saying "I'm good!" can you? Really. I mean every post is some justification of your "skill". You can cure faster than a WHM? Good for you, DNC abilities are instant and WHMs have casting time, even if it can be reduced.

@Keyboard vs Controller talk - I believe that everyone can play in their own way; a person who's used to a keyboard, I imagine, would be terrible at a controller at first. I know I would and I'm a big-time gamer with controller reflexes, but it's a sorta different reflex that I've got to get used to for FFXI. The same would probably be the opposite for someone going from controller to keyboard - it's difficult to get adjusted to the playstyle quickly. Once you get used to either method, I'm sure it's still fairly quick. Often enough I can't tell the difference between the two.

[DebbieGibson]

Can we stop with the pansy controller and keyboard are both okay I love you you love me talk? When can we be really hardcore about this and admit that the few milliseconds you save by using keyboard make it superior?

[Greatguardian]

I'm sorry, but I wasn't insulting anything it was a lay out critique

Though I may not be the best typer, I am a decent lay out artist. And the guide is good, though I personaly will not use it. But for me it is hard to read with some of the clutter and "spoiler" tabs.
Personally, keyboard vs controler is just personal opinion. I'm quick when it comes to cures. And I tend to use the correct cures. And this is via a controler.

To jump the gun and lable everything I say as an insult. Maybe you should compare with the Actual insults people made. Such as the "funny" thread topic. Honestly if you wanted a good joke title. I woulda gone "Gear Swapping for Dummies" like those guides you find for just about eveything.

Sorry I tend to have a type A personality when it comes to page layout. You should see my Linkshell Rules for my LS in ffxiv.

prz criteke the layout of my thread on hear. i am not vry good wit layouts and i am internested in ur onion of it.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...y-2010-Paladin

[Reiterpallasch]

Pro tip: if you wanna make a guide, understand what the guide is for, who the guide is for.

The title is very clear and precise. Simple minded people do not use gear swaps. Therefore, the guide is for the simple minded.

But for me it is hard to read with some of the clutter and "spoiler" tabs

You have to click the "spoiler" button. It becomes much easier to read after that

[Kimara]

Can we stop with the pansy controller and keyboard are both okay I love you you love me talk? When can we be really hardcore about this and admit that the few milliseconds you save by using keyboard make it superior?

I would have to agree with you that millaseconds are defiantly saved on a keyboard using common sense. Thats why I never stated that one was faster than the other :3 I said I'm faster with a controller <3. Can we still love each other?

[Greatguardian]

Can we stop with the pansy controller and keyboard are both okay I love you you love me talk? When can we be really hardcore about this and admit that the few milliseconds you save by using keyboard make it superior?

Assuming windower for access to the ALT/Ctrl+F1-f6 Keybinds, yes. In a console+keyboard setting, curing people outside your party but inside your alliance, you are likely a little bit better off scrolling through the <stal> list with a d-pad than the arrow keys.

Everyone knows you'll be curing faster and reacting better with Windower+Keyboard though. The personal acclimation argument is akin to using a TI-84 over an HP calculator. Being familiar with one doesn't make it superior, just better for you at the present time. However, you're always better off in the end by training yourself to use the superior machine.

[Romanova]

Can we stop with the pansy controller and keyboard are both okay I love you you love me talk? When can we be really hardcore about this and admit that the few milliseconds you save by using keyboard make it superior?

If I can cure while we're fighting AV with a controller, those milliseconds mean absolutely nothing in this game. It's strictly about preference. I will be slower hitting the f1 button because I am more comfortable using the controller. I don't think you can train me to me more comfortable with a keyboard as I don't even use it for WoW outside of chat.



in the end though it doesn't matter because by your logic my g13 is greater than a keyboard anyway because of the easy button layout so me > you. :P

[Aver]

How does targeting someone directly instead of using stal or stpt have anything to do with slacking on curing? Targeting them directly is faster than stpt or stal. Are you saying you never have anyone die mid-cure ever?

Just clarify for me here, how does the way you target someone have anything to do with "slacking on your cures". Also please clarify, HOW exactly do you slack on cures? If you aren't curing someone instantly when it's necessary then you are failing.

I'm saying if you keep people topped off and pay attention to HP, after a certain point in the game that situation should never come to light. I'm not talking about Kazham and a goblin coming in and DA'ing your junk to the ground, because that's not where we are in the game anymore. Solace+Cure3/4*/5/6/Regens/Cura if you so happen to be in range (which you really shouldn't, but that's another story). With the amount of EZMode thrown at whms these days, short of an instacast meteor wiping your face, there's really no reason to have someone die.

CIV* italicized because I'll leave that up to the user. For trash mobs, who cares. If it counts and we're not in abyssea where Allure/MM is gonna save you, please use discretion.

edit: Hay, G510 ftw

[Tamoa]

Rosina, you play the game in the way you find fun, you've repeated this over and over and over and we get it, you can stop saying that now, ok?

This thread wasn't made so you could chime in to tell the OP his post layout isn't good enough (it is btw), or that you won't be using this guide (we all know that you don't gearswap so why would you?), or constantly remind us of how good you are. This is a GUIDE for people that aren't very familiar with macros, and a place to offer advice and ask questions about macros. Not your personal diary or blog where you whine about how mean people are and proceed with your usual insults, veiled as they might be (very thinly veiled though).

To the OP: it's a nice guide and I do wish there was a way it could be stickied. Thank you for taking the time to put it together and posting it.

[Nala]

I'd like to point out that you can also "stack" macros so they're all layered on one position in the macro palette by making use of the follow syntax: /macro set #

This lets you jump around to different lines in your macro book, so you can have a setup that looks like this:

CTRL 1 (first line in macro book):
/equip stuff x5
/macro set 2
CTRL 1 (second line in macro book):
/equip stuff x5
/macro set 3
CTRL 1 (third line in macro book):
/equip stuff x5
/Ja MurderTown <t>

holy cow... i was beginning to think i was the only person that used em that way, in the past ive tried explaining that type of application to others but they never got it...