prz criteke the layout of my thread on hear. i am not vry good wit layouts and i am internested in ur onion of it.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...y-2010-Paladin
prz criteke the layout of my thread on hear. i am not vry good wit layouts and i am internested in ur onion of it.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...y-2010-Paladin
Pretty awesome guide to help with gear swaps. I'm still relatively new and don't have much in terms of gear yet, but I will be using this and looking at other suggestions once I have a ton of gear. Thanks for the guide.![]()
@Rosina
This isn't FFXIV. Take that part of the discussion elsewhere. I know you're trying to compare the layouts but let's focus on the task at hand rather than flouting ourselves, shall we? I'm glad you're all organized and whatnot, but we're not talking about you in this thread so please don't derail it. Instead we're focusing on offering macro advice for those who could benefit from it. No defenses/insults/ohmygodwhyareyousomeans from you, please just either contribute or leave this thread alone. If you want to fight it out, put up your dukes in a thread that wouldn't be vital to new players looking for advice.
That aside, it wasn't a necessary critique, nor did it actually contribute to the guide. The layout is organized into simple sections that are easy enough to identify, and with a little work can easily be implemented into any melee job. Mages can learn from it too, though they'd simply have to learn how to piece theirs together into a different sort of coherence so that they can locate their macros simply. The spoilers could be replaced by quotes but really it's meant to sort of block off the beginning and the end of the the macro lines. Ascetically it looks pretty good, honestly.
Now let it go, so we can work on improving this guide for people who actually use it. You don't use gear swaps, as you said, so I don't see why you're going to insert your presence in here anyway.
Edits because I got ninja'd on posts:
More @Rosina, first of all. You really can't stop just saying "I'm good!" can you? Really. I mean every post is some justification of your "skill". You can cure faster than a WHM? Good for you, DNC abilities are instant and WHMs have casting time, even if it can be reduced.
@Keyboard vs Controller talk - I believe that everyone can play in their own way; a person who's used to a keyboard, I imagine, would be terrible at a controller at first. I know I would and I'm a big-time gamer with controller reflexes, but it's a sorta different reflex that I've got to get used to for FFXI. The same would probably be the opposite for someone going from controller to keyboard - it's difficult to get adjusted to the playstyle quickly. Once you get used to either method, I'm sure it's still fairly quick. Often enough I can't tell the difference between the two.
Last edited by Kensagaku; 08-26-2011 at 05:19 AM.
[Kensagaku - formerly of Kujata] - http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Valefor/Kensagaku
Can we stop with the pansy controller and keyboard are both okay I love you you love me talk? When can we be really hardcore about this and admit that the few milliseconds you save by using keyboard make it superior?
Sig by Kingfury!
(jobs in order) SMN90, BST90, WHM90, BLM90, DNC90, THF 90
Assuming windower for access to the ALT/Ctrl+F1-f6 Keybinds, yes. In a console+keyboard setting, curing people outside your party but inside your alliance, you are likely a little bit better off scrolling through the <stal> list with a d-pad than the arrow keys.
Everyone knows you'll be curing faster and reacting better with Windower+Keyboard though. The personal acclimation argument is akin to using a TI-84 over an HP calculator. Being familiar with one doesn't make it superior, just better for you at the present time. However, you're always better off in the end by training yourself to use the superior machine.
If I can cure while we're fighting AV with a controller, those milliseconds mean absolutely nothing in this game. It's strictly about preference. I will be slower hitting the f1 button because I am more comfortable using the controller. I don't think you can train me to me more comfortable with a keyboard as I don't even use it for WoW outside of chat.
in the end though it doesn't matter because by your logic my g13 is greater than a keyboard anyway because of the easy button layout so me > you. :P
Romanova-Ragnarok
Rosina, you play the game in the way you find fun, you've repeated this over and over and over and we get it, you can stop saying that now, ok?
This thread wasn't made so you could chime in to tell the OP his post layout isn't good enough (it is btw), or that you won't be using this guide (we all know that you don't gearswap so why would you?), or constantly remind us of how good you are. This is a GUIDE for people that aren't very familiar with macros, and a place to offer advice and ask questions about macros. Not your personal diary or blog where you whine about how mean people are and proceed with your usual insults, veiled as they might be (very thinly veiled though).
To the OP: it's a nice guide and I do wish there was a way it could be stickied. Thank you for taking the time to put it together and posting it.
Very nice guide, thank you for taking the time to write it up OP.
Controller vs keyboard.....Controller for me since I have used one for over 5 years, but if you're used to a keyboard then fine. It's all up to your personal preference.
Proud to be "Old School" and to have completed CoP pre-nerf
Thanks everyone for the input ^^
And who found the guide difficult to read? I designed it specifically so it was easier to understand. >.> Going to add in some people's ideas now.
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