Thanks for Temper SE

[saevel]

I know a bunch of non-RDM's are jumping into the forum to express their discontent at not being buffed by RDM again. Just wanted to express thanks from an actual RDM who doesn't want to cycle yet another spell on 4~5 people. Yes I would of appreciated if it worked with the SCH ability Accession, but barring that I believe it was a good attempt at giving RDM a melee buff.

I do not find this spell useless, I will use it consistently along with Gain-STR. I wish you would introduce more enhancements along this line, either self cast buffs or aoe cast buffs, but never another single target buff.

Thanks and have a good day.

[Ragni]

Just wanted to express thanks from an actual RDM who doesn't want to cycle yet another spell on 4~5 people.

And you call yourself RDM? lol

[Daniel_Hatcher]

And you call yourself RDM? lol

/sigh

A RDM isn't a buffer regardless what SE wants to pretend.

BRD, COR even SMN and WHM are better buffers. No AoE = Not a buffer

RDM's spells consist of self-target 99% of the time so they're a self buffer and nothing else.

[DebbieGibson]

/sigh

A RDM isn't a buffer regardless what SE wants to pretend.

BRD, COR even SMN and WHM are better buffers. No AoE = Not a buffer

RDM's spells consist of self-target 99% of the time so they're a self buffer and nothing else.

dumb post.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

dumb post.

Dumb is arguing they are.... what do they get to enhance: Haste.... Phalanx II if you merit it, if that deems a job a buffer people are stupid.

[DebbieGibson]

Dumb is arguing they are.... what do they get to enhance: Haste.... Phalanx II if you merit it, if that deems a job a buffer people are stupid.

haste is 15% reduction in delay. dia3 is 15% atk+ to the whole party. How is that not a buffer job? That's better than a bard can do.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Haste was added lets be honest because they didn't see the need to add another haste and make it self target only.

Look at what RDM gets to buff itself, then what they get to buff the party. They're a self-buffer with Haste.

Dia is an enfeeblement, I never said they didn't enfeeble. That's not buffing a party in reality though.

ETA: I don't mind them being a buffer but there is no denying as it stands RDM is far from what SE claim it to be.

[Ragni]

RDM is called jack of all trades so he is buffer too!

Protect
Shell
Refresh
Regen
Haste
Phalanx

That's enough to call RDM buffer!

And you ppl are happy that you dont need to cast more buffs ?

[Duelle]

haste is 15% reduction in delay. dia3 is 15% atk+ to the whole party. How is that not a buffer job? That's better than a bard can do.

It's not. Call me when RDM can increase Max HP, Max MP, increase physical and magical crit rates, can make people walk faster, can increase baseline attack power, can increase baseline defense (provided defense is fixed to work as it should have since the beginning), increase resistance to critical hits, increases casting speeds, increases magic attack, increase magic defense, can increase all stats by 10%, and grants the ability to drain 6-9% of damage done as HP; all baseline without the need of a subjob and castable on others. Then you might be able to call RDM a buffer job.

I second the OP's sentiment. I'm thankful for Temper and look forward to seeing additional changes to compliment it. Hopefully, some of the changes will favor our melee side. I know we have a review of combat proficiencies planned for later, but there's still much work to be done. *nod*

[Lago]

Temper will be great for career red mages in solo/duo situations, and if that applies to you then there's no reason you shouldn't be happy about that. However, unless it's a part of something bigger that hasn't been announced, like some sort of buff aura or AoE buff transfer, it does nothing to increase our utility in parties, and it's still hard to imagine why someone who has leveled ninja or blue mage would ever choose to fill a melee/support role in a party as a red mage instead. Those are perfectly good reasons to complain.