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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Pushing the BS button right now on this. Enhancing magic goes up glacially when cast on yourself or other party members. The only times you can get it to go faster is if your casting on a high level NPC, then it use's the "target other" formula which is what weapon skills and all offensive magic use. Healing and Enhancing both cast upon self go up at one skill level for a few hundred casts, this has been gone over time and time again for the last 8+ years.
    I know that eyeballing isn't the most efficient statistical analysis tool, but I can say with almost absolute certainty that this is wrong. I get plenty of skillups even for completely random warps and teleports or self-buffs without regard for skillups. Push whatever button you want to, I can not comprehend what was going on there. I can't prove what skill I had back then but I can show you screenshots of capped skills right now and I was 30 RDM just this Wednesday. Whether you believe it or not is up to you, I find your story equally unbelievable. Either you can't judge the flow of time correctly or you just did something very wrong.

    I also capped enhancing magic easily on my main character btw, that's two characters with capped skill. Summoning, on the other hand, took me weeks, and I actually gave up at one point because it kept me from playing other things. In the end I resumed it and finally managed to cap it. So again, are you talking about something else?
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    Player Supersun's Avatar
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    What did you sacrifice to the RNG gods?

    I'll be needing some of it in about a month.
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    Player Seriha's Avatar
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    Perhaps semi-recent skill up rate adjustments and food can be a factor, but I'm not at all inclined to believe gaining 150+ levels in 5 hours would be the norm. Hell, recently capping off H2H and GKT with 30+ levels on each took about that long per weapon with double march, haste, haste samba, capped gear haste, and hasso on SAM while wielding Soboro against birds in Mis with Martial Master up. Pretty much constant fighting.

    Either way, we'll all be reminded in a few weeks. x.x
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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriha View Post
    Perhaps semi-recent skill up rate adjustments and food can be a factor, but I'm not at all inclined to believe gaining 150+ levels in 5 hours would be the norm. Hell, recently capping off H2H and GKT with 30+ levels on each took about that long per weapon with double march, haste, haste samba, capped gear haste, and hasso on SAM while wielding Soboro against birds in Mis with Martial Master up. Pretty much constant fighting.

    Either way, we'll all be reminded in a few weeks. x.x
    He's BSing. He capped a different skill that way and figured enhancing worked the same way, then posted. I've seen people make this mistake before and they say the exact same things, basically going off the typical skill up rates for melee / enf / ele skills and applying them to enh / healing / summoning (pre update). Now he's committed and this being an internet forum the "Nobody's ever wrong" gets used.

    I've skilled Enhancing on RDM ever since I started playing RDM in Spring 2003. It takes hours upon hours to cap. Going from capped skill @85 to capped skill @90 was three days of about 8~10 hours per day running the exact same barspell macro's that we all use while watching movies. This isn't an exaggeration, I've got this method down to a science because I used it from 50~60, 60~70, 70~75 (leveled faster then skill could keep up), 75~80, 80~85, 85~90, and I'll most likely use it again at 90~95. Parsed out it was a few hundred casts per skill level on average. There is no way someone is doing 100+ skill levels in 5hrs. Not unless there is some hidden lv 90NPC that doesn't move and is up 24/7 that we can cast spells on.
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    Last edited by saevel; 08-29-2011 at 03:19 AM.

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    Player Shadotter's Avatar
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    Well... if you have an 85 fellow you can cast on there's that.
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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Eat the magic skillup foods. They help, a ton.
    I totally Forgot about those :X
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    Last edited by Quetzacoatl; 08-29-2011 at 05:17 AM.

  7. #27
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    He's BSing. He capped a different skill that way and figured enhancing worked the same way, then posted. I've seen people make this mistake before and they say the exact same things, basically going off the typical skill up rates for melee / enf / ele skills and applying them to enh / healing / summoning (pre update). Now he's committed and this being an internet forum the "Nobody's ever wrong" gets used.
    Your face is BSing. And unlike you, I have proof:
    http://95.156.209.71/pub/ffxi/pics/i...828_223820.png
    http://95.156.209.71/pub/ffxi/pics/i...828_223846.png

    Also, I said it was several days of roughly 5 hours each. More proof:
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    [..] About 5 hours each day (was all day long, but with frequent breaks, I assume it amounted to about 5 hours of actual skillup time).
    Either you can't read or you're twisting my words, you choose which is worse.
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