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    Player Seriha's Avatar
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    That said, said numbers were harvested from casting Haste and Refresh as needed with Composure up and otherwise cycling through Barspells for a good number of hours. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if some spells had higher base skill rates than others, but if buffing Generals in the past is any indication, it's almost like there's a bonus applied when acting toward NPC objects, friend or foe, regardless of magic skill family.
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    Player Shadotter's Avatar
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    Would it help if I mentioned that if you cast enhancing spells on your fellow you get skillups as though they were offensive magic cast on a mob of the same level? Same goes for healing magic.
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    Player Duelle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadotter View Post
    Would it help if I mentioned that if you cast enhancing spells on your fellow you get skillups as though they were offensive magic cast on a mob of the same level? Same goes for healing magic.
    Didn't know that. Though, that means leveling the fellow in the interim.

    As far as offensive enhancing spells, the only one I can come up with would be something akin kinetic defenders in city of heroes, whose buffs all relied on hitting a mob, which would then kinda bounce back to the group to buff the party. If I recall, they also had a healing ability that worked similarly.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line.

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    Took me a few days of casting barspell after barspell (make a macro) while watching movies.
    Healing magic is the only one I know of to be as difficult as capping enhancing magic.
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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Took me a few days of casting barspell after barspell (make a macro) while watching movies.
    Healing magic is the only one I know of to be as difficult as capping enhancing magic.
    This is what I'm doing at the moment. They're cheap, they're fast, they're good in general.

    I still would like to hear Square's input on the matter, though.
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    Last edited by Quetzacoatl; 08-27-2011 at 02:39 PM.

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    Eat the magic skillup foods. They help, a ton.
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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Eat the magic skillup foods. They help, a ton.
    I totally Forgot about those :X
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    Last edited by Quetzacoatl; 08-29-2011 at 05:17 AM.

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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    A few hours is usually enough to get 20~30 levels. It's not bad at all to cap, I don't know why so many people are complaining. Parrying is what they should focus on, or even summoning magic, but that's about it. If you have OCD like me and need to see blue numbers, you'll do the effort and run the extra mile to have it capped. Otherwise just let it happen naturally.
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    All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.
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    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
    FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    A few hours is usually enough to get 20~30 levels.
    Are you sure we are talking about the same skill here?

    I'd consider myself lucky if I got 20~30 levels in a few days
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    Are you sure we are talking about the same skill here?
    No. I can't see your angle at all. It sounds to me like you're complaining about guard or parry, not enhancing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    I'd consider myself lucky if I got 20~30 levels in a few days
    I wanted to cap my melee skills the other day (this Wednesday), so I thought it would be nice to have a Phalanx II mule. So I leeched my mule's RDM from 30 to 89 in two days and was casting barspells while I was leeching. It was at 170 when I started (from her WHM), now it's capped at 335. About 5 hours each day (was all day long, but with frequent breaks, I assume it amounted to about 5 hours of actual skillup time).
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    All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.
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    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
    FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers

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