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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urteil View Post
    With the advent of resistance setups and /sch, many of these "poor" jobs are much more powerful than you all might think.


    Did you know that WHM is perhaps the single most powerful ballista job with MAB gear and the right strategy?

    With Holy II I am legitimately worried.
    Why? Holy II isn't even that strong when Ultima uses it. What makes you think it's going to be any good on WHM, especially when Holy I blows chunks?

    Out of all the new spells and abilities, you find that to be the one with the most balance altering potential? Remember, all damage is scaled down to a degree.

    Besides, most of the people currently playing ballista do 60 cap... which I personally don't like, but it's better than not playing at all...

    I only want to do 1v1 fights, because I'm able to gauge my skill better that way, instead of having 5+ people attacking me all at once.
    You're really missing the point and spirit of the system. What you describe doesn't even really happen that often (Unless you really give people a reason to ) The skill in PvP is in strategy, not just how you handle your character. JP take their ballista business seriously. They will check you and see if you have petras or gate breach, and decide who to attack accordingly. They will use any ability or spell in their arsenal to interrupt scoring attempts, they are very competitive when you get them to play. There's little point in testing your individual ability in handling your character against one other person's individual ability, because neither PvE or PvP are balanced around that. Many jobs that don't do as well 1v1 are much more powerful in a party environment. All of this is true both in normal areas in the game and in PvP.

    Thankfully on Shiva there's still a decent group of JP players who do it on a regular basis; unfortunately, it's usually in the wee hours of the morning.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Except I tried to reserve an area just for myself and one other, and his friends decides to come in too. Unless I'm mistaken, Brenner can't be reserved for just 2 people.
    You are mistaken. Unless you're joining an official match (which you may have done- official schedule for Brenner is fixed, unlike the rotating schedule for official ballista), you can control exactly who can and can't come.

    If it wasn't an official match, then your friend set the area to be openly accessible, or gave those people pages himself.
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    Player Aeonk's Avatar
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    Interesting, didn't know there were this many closet PvP enthusiasts.

    I thought Ballista players were a dieing breed.... where the hell have you all been hiding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeonk View Post
    Interesting, didn't know there were this many closet PvP enthusiasts.

    I thought Ballista players were a dieing breed.... where the hell have you all been hiding?
    PvP is more done with a small group of close friends so you can get a good laugh and have fun. In Brenner last week we were killing each other left and right. In vent we were just laughing it up and having a good time! I would love to see a fix for Ballista and Brenner I don't think SE is willing to go to far with them though. Regardless it is still fun for what it is now.
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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    I really like PvP in this game, there's a lot more to it than meets the eye.

    No gear swaps means you need to balance your gear between damage mitigation and damage improvement, or whatever best suits your job.

    The real downfall is the unbalanced jobs. RDM BLU BLM SCH have a big advantage simply because of Bind, Sleep, Break, and Stun. Even further with Silence, Paralyze, and Slow. Debuffs are pretty much the most crippling thing in PvP, and BLU can do them all + crazy spike damage making it nearly invincible. Full Evasion set? Bam. Regurgitation'd to death.
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    Player Aeonk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    I really like PvP in this game, there's a lot more to it than meets the eye.

    No gear swaps means you need to balance your gear between damage mitigation and damage improvement, or whatever best suits your job.

    The real downfall is the unbalanced jobs. RDM BLU BLM SCH have a big advantage simply because of Bind, Sleep, Break, and Stun. Even further with Silence, Paralyze, and Slow. Debuffs are pretty much the most crippling thing in PvP, and BLU can do them all + crazy spike damage making it nearly invincible. Full Evasion set? Bam. Regurgitation'd to death.
    A lot of those balance issues go away when you put it in a group setting. If you try to fight a mage job as a THF 1v1... then it's no question who SHOULD win (I say should, because the player's skill will always be an X factor.)

    But in a huge match, alot of the AoE's lose potency even with something simple like breaking parties/alliances. Sleepga isn't very game breaking when it's only hitting 1 or 2 people (regardless of if they have poison up or temps to recover.)
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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    That's true. Asura doesn't do much other than 1v1 so I'm afraid I can't say from experience though.
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    Problem solved completely by a new area with a section for bataru royale, and one for a que system for 1v1, 3v3, and 6v6 matches. Put it in an easily accessible place. Do away with any sort of caps, and it will be well received by the community.
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    Your ideas Are Awesome 100% support.
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    ^^It be nice too see this happend^^
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    Remove ballista from the game
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