Ballista Reborn!

[Alhanelem]

There's a multi-hundred-post thread with the same title, just bump that one...

[Shinron-PUP]

saw a match yesterday @ 2pm on Lakshmi. It was in the marsh lands. Ballista has capped and un capped fights. I would like to do it also. Just hard. Personaly speaking. Your doing it wrong if you NEED to be rewarded. Rewards come in all types. Why not do it for the fun not the reward as most games are about.

I completely agree that Ballista is a reward in itself, but in reality this isn't how people, for the most part, think. People like my brother calls ballista "A waste of time" and quite literally it's true because you aren't benefiting from it except for skill as a player. If people don't see a physical or concrete change, then they believe it's useless. I think for people who find ballista as being a reward in itself, then good for them/us, but the count of people with this mentality is so miniscuol that I am sad to say entisement is necessary to lure them in. Without people, ballista doesn't function... This is another issue maybe they can touch on? Ballista matches cancel if you don't have 3v3 so maybe make the minimum capacity 1v1... It would be wierd being in a big zone with only 2 people but regardless... for those who play the game for PvP they can't enjoy it because no one shows up.

Ballista needs many fixes such as job balancing and more content, but I must say that rewards are also amongsts them.

[Korpg]

This game is not PvP.

This game is PvE.

There is no such thing as skill when it comes to PvP on this game. And if you arrange a 1v1 match, always some idiot (would use another word but don't want the mods to get angry with me) decides to screw that up and get the killshot, then start talking smack because they waited until both players are at 10% or less health to kill them both.

[Inafking]

PvP is only for jearks who want to beat up on other people. Please stop wasting time with this crap.

[JackDaniels]

I personally think a new ballista hat for x ammount of games played would be awesome
Or ballista tabs??

[JackDaniels]

Oh an just for the sake of aggrivating Alhanelem, I'll bump this again with:

Time = money, it also = experience points which could equate to money. Ballista = no money/exp, therefor I think your idea for upping the ante with more exp and more gil is a wonderful idea. Maybe 10k gil and 10k exp for the winners and 0 gil and 10k exp for the losers would draw out more players. In an hour of a dunes party you can easily get 10k exp, so I think that's only fair.

I think this would definately help with people who burn their way to cap, it would give an amazing opportunity to hone one's skills.

Another idea that comes to mind is to have three team ballistas (one for each nation), maybe rotating between batallia, rollanberry and that zone outside port jeuno? Everyone is already afking all day in jeuno, if they only had to zone once or twice by foot to join ballista, maybe that would help out. Also everyone loves teleport jewellery, how about (teleport: ballista) jewellery?

[Shinron-PUP]

This game is not PvP.

This game is PvE.

There is no such thing as skill when it comes to PvP on this game. And if you arrange a 1v1 match, always some idiot (would use another word but don't want the mods to get angry with me) decides to screw that up and get the killshot, then start talking smack because they waited until both players are at 10% or less health to kill them both.

PvP is only for jearks who want to beat up on other people. Please stop wasting time with this crap.

In my opinion, it sounds like you guys both have some personal grudges in which are making you feel that Ballista should be discontinued, but this is not a really laudable reason or condition for it not to see an update. I actually believe it's kind of rude to put your nose in somewhere you don't belong... if you don't like the enterprise then just don't participate in it... and if you don't like the thread and don't have anything positive to say then don't post. I'm kind of tired of having things in which a lot of people can enjoy being held back by completely bias narcissist who really in essence are being selfish themselves because they don't want to see something updated where as in result it might take away a little attention and time from Square Enix from other important issues and patches, they have some personal vendetta over it, or because they just only have negative things to say about everything. Not all people who play ballista are jerks... Real life fighting and fighting in game are to totally opposite things. Ballista calls for a new style and aspect of fighting in comparison to a mob where the enemy is no longer stationary and predictable... In ballista you must adapt and really think on what's going to happen. If you weapon skill at an obvious time then the enemy can run out of range, flash, or use means of protection to mitigate it unlike a monster can. If you don't have some type of shield you might be silenced or slept but in ballista this would happen at your inconvenience rather than your convenience because no type of A.I. or monster we can fight can read when your images, third eye, or stoneskin are down or when executing a weapon skill will ensure death at that point in time... Ballista is the only unique system in which you will fight another enemy on the same intellectual level as you while also having the same HP and MP limitations making the fight fair, fun, and educating.

[Alhanelem]

PvP is only for jearks who want to beat up on other people. Please stop wasting time with this crap.

PvP is for people who want to do something that's just for fun. If they do it they're enjoying it, not being jerks it doesn't affect you if you don't participate so don't complain about it. Some people find it fun. Leave those people be.

This game is not PvP.

This game is PvE.

This game is whatever you want it to be. Outside of it's internal issues, Ballista is perfectly designed. No one is forced to participate, it's a controlled environment, and it's a mainly just-for-fun activity for when you want a break from the usual grind. FFXI is great because it has something for everyone, not just for any one thing it offers. So please, drop the PvP grudge both of you so clearly have.

Well, if you balance the jobs first, then ballista would solve itself.

It's not that simple. They don't balance the jobs against each other directly. While good PvE balance does take you in the right direction, some abilities and spells require tweaking in the PvP environment (e.g., things like Steal and Mug and Provoke, which normally never affect a player in PvE, needed to be given their own effects for PvP)

Giving out good rewards for PvP is fine, as long as it doesn't impact PvE balance. They could give items that have benefits that only work in ballista, or just "look cool." Bumping the EXP reward a bit compensates you for your time a bit more, especially since the EXP everywhere else has been basically doubled but Ballista's EXP award is still unchanged.

[Elexia]

People still do Ballista?

Also, 2000th post.

Some do yeah, just for fun and to pass time. I was reading this till I seen 'items and rewards' then had to stop. I rather not be forced into PvP for rewards nor would I want to be nicely rewarded for something that isn't a focus of this game, especially if it's job changing because you then have to do it if you want to get all you can to make your job go further.

[Inafking]

I actually believe it's kind of rude to put your nose in somewhere you don't belong...

Right, like putting PvP in a PvE game.