Is it just me..?

[Myrrh]

Wait, why would new people need to have Azure if your Emp weapon PT members are one hitting everything?

[Korpg]

Wait, why would new people need to have Azure if your Emp weapon PT members are one hitting everything?

Because they, like everyone else, have an ego trip where they, like everyone else, feel the need to have the kill shot to make them, like everyone else, feel better.

Plus, it would suck if the new person also uses and emp weapon and start getting killshots.

[Myrrh]

I could understand that if the new person had a Emp but by the way everyone is sounding in this thread. It's the people who don't have a Emp that are feeling bad.

[Khajit]

Hey BLM, we have some new people, go cap azure for them. I don't care that you're already getting capped exp, it's a BLM's job in an exp party to screw over their own exp.

Because it's impossible for there to be more than one monster at the camp?


This entire thread seems to consist of horrible players claiming that doing it wrong is doing it right.
If one person is doing half the damage of the alliance it means the alliance itself is the weak link while the "empy user" can just leave the alliance and solo better exp than you guys.

Ruby lights are actually good for exp. The concept of being stuck on 300 exp for hours instead of getting 600 exp a kill semi quickly being bad is apparently nonexistent here.
Halfway decent rdm blm blu etc can easily get azure lights. Post update a whm is probably going to be able to one shot azure lights.
Abyssea parties are supposedly for skilling up now which explains why I see people with under 100 skill , lv 30 weapons, etc, join parties I make and then rage when i kick em. I had no idea that was the true purpose of abyssea. I should have realized that people unable to deal more damage than a thf pulling via boomerang and not meleeing are perfectly ok to have.
Are you guys seriously accusing decent-->well geared players of having a superiority complex when they ARE 10~x better than you in terms of damage? It's not a superiority complex when it's true. They probably even have better chest abyssites.
In book parties all these points about zomg you're fucking with our azure is even worse because I've literally soloed positive time in book zones without any lights whatsoever except a few azure from ruby chests.(pre empy)

I've had parties where my meleeing brd going afk or leaving literally makes them time out because they were essentially leeching on the brd(that they put in a mage pt for some unknown reason) and as such I'm more inclined to think that the person killing fast is less a problem than the other people who cant even halfway keep up.

TLDR it's not the empy person being bad, it's you being terrible.

[TybudX]

ITT: People saying BLM shouldn't have to run off to cap Azure lights... when exping on worms.

Abyssea exp alliances suck because 94.4% of the people in them aren't smart enough to kill a potato. If you really think Azure lights are important, fight something that gives Azure? Holy shit. Next thing you know people are going to start saying that those evil well-geared players are following their BLMs around the zone to steal their kills.

[Sparthos]

ITT: People saying BLM shouldn't have to run off to cap Azure lights... when exping on worms.

Abyssea exp alliances suck because 94.4% of the people in them aren't smart enough to kill a potato. If you really think Azure lights are important, fight something that gives Azure? Holy shit. Next thing you know people are going to start saying that those evil well-geared players are following their BLMs around the zone to steal their kills.

In a Vision zone it's slightly more annoying to recap lights but really a BLU or BLM should have no problem getting lights back up speed if they bother to do it right.

Azure stuff away from the party if you have to.

[TybudX]

Azure stuff away from the party if you have to.

The point being people are complaining about this one specific guy keeping them from being able to get Azure lights... at worms. They already need to Azure stuff away from the party. They just aren't smart enough to know better.

[BorkBorkBork]

For the record, killing stuff faster will get you all treasure chests faster. The whole 'avoid ruby until you cap azure' thing is along the same lines as the 'make your DDs sub NIN so the healer can keep sucking' thing. If somebody happens to be stupid and own an empyrean weapon man up and tell them to solo mobs. And you can't get azure why? What are your BLMs doing? A single BLM can -aga/-aja nuke worms down in a couple of nukes, and somehow this empyrean DD is killing all of them?


There is a good reason the alliance you were in looked useless. It wasn't that one guy.

This so much, SE really needs to put out a tutorial on how lights in abyssea work and that ruby isn't bad unless your alliance is horrible and full of people that are there to skill up. If that's the case it's doomed to fail. I love the mentality of zomfg don't ws.

[Madjam]

All you need in abyssea burn parties now is 1 emp user, 1 BLM, 1 WHM, and 15 leeches.

Which is what you are getting anyway. More leechers than players.

Well, that doesn't prevent Leech A from being accussed of leeching by Leech B and to have Leech B flamming on Leech A's back to the leader to the Leeches' Abyssea Burn Experience Party to have Leeche A kicked out for leeching which result of having Leech A kicked out of the party for no valid reason...

Leech B is a Leech Queen B..... That kind of Leech is to be avoided at all cost. And if you happen to be the leader of such party, do the party a favor and kick that Queen B out.

[Crimson_Slasher]

Just as a side note to the mentality of this thread, you're saying empy users shouldnt solo mobs, but blms/blus/schs/rdm should leave camp and farm light...so in summary "Dont make this person go out of their way to help the party, but its okay to make THIS person go out of their way to do things." Not that i am siding with either side, but dont you find that silly that your advice at core is the same as the argument you are against in a nutshell?