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    Player TybudX's Avatar
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    For the record, killing stuff faster will get you all treasure chests faster. The whole 'avoid ruby until you cap azure' thing is along the same lines as the 'make your DDs sub NIN so the healer can keep sucking' thing. If somebody happens to be stupid and own an empyrean weapon man up and tell them to solo mobs. And you can't get azure why? What are your BLMs doing? A single BLM can -aga/-aja nuke worms down in a couple of nukes, and somehow this empyrean DD is killing all of them?

    There is a good reason the alliance you were in looked useless. It wasn't that one guy.
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    False on both counts. I don't always disagree, nor do I think I'm always right.

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    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TybudX View Post
    For the record, killing stuff faster will get you all treasure chests faster. The whole 'avoid ruby until you cap azure' thing is along the same lines as the 'make your DDs sub NIN so the healer can keep sucking' thing. If somebody happens to be stupid and own an empyrean weapon man up and tell them to solo mobs. And you can't get azure why? What are your BLMs doing? A single BLM can -aga/-aja nuke worms down in a couple of nukes, and somehow this empyrean DD is killing all of them?

    There is a good reason the alliance you were in looked useless. It wasn't that one guy.
    Still being as contradictory as ever.

    Also, you may want to think about what you just said:
    For the record, killing stuff faster will get you all treasure chests faster.
    What are your BLMs doing? A single BLM can -aga/-aja nuke worms down in a couple of nukes, and somehow this empyrean DD is killing all of them?
    Unless you send your BLMs off to run around the zone (which most already do, especially emph hunting in some zones), you'll still have overpowering ruby which we do know, especially if you're a vet to Abyssea, red chests can cap off quickly and if all you get are red chests and no TEs you end your party pretty quickly, especially if you're the type to use a keyer or actually help out new players levels who won't have 100+ minutes to blow.

    Anyone with an emp worth their salt will kill everything quickly.
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    Dark Knight ~ 90: Yes I actually use a Scythe.

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    Player Xellith's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Still being as contradictory as ever.

    Also, you may want to think about what you just said:




    Unless you send your BLMs off to run around the zone (which most already do, especially emph hunting in some zones), you'll still have overpowering ruby which we do know, especially if you're a vet to Abyssea, red chests can cap off quickly and if all you get are red chests and no TEs you end your party pretty quickly, especially if you're the type to use a keyer or actually help out new players levels who won't have 100+ minutes to blow.

    Anyone with an emp worth their salt will kill everything quickly.
    If new players dont have the time then they shouldnt be in the zone without entering with more traverser stones. EXP/hr shouldnt be dictated by the weakest link. They can enter late or not enter at all. I usually tell people with low time to enter late so they can get in on the exp eventually.

    Ruby is required for exp for gold and ebon lights. If your killspeed is fast enough and your mages can actually azure stuff then over time youll have much greater gains. Ruby isnt the devil that people make it out to be. It all depends how fast you can smash stuff in the face while the blms are off doing other monsters in another part of the zone/camp.

    Dont blame empy users. This isnt an empy issue. This is down to blms/rdms/whatevernukes not getting azure. That being said, once again you have to be able to kill VERY fast to get good gains from smashing stuff in the face.

    Another way you can do it is you would have 1-2 people outside the alliance cap ruby then get them back in the alliance and not ruby anything else again. You would then have them get killshots so the rest of the alliance can get TE and Amber but still leech gold, silver and ebon lights off the 1-2 people with capped ruby
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    Last edited by Xellith; 08-24-2011 at 09:15 PM.
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    Player BorkBorkBork's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TybudX View Post
    For the record, killing stuff faster will get you all treasure chests faster. The whole 'avoid ruby until you cap azure' thing is along the same lines as the 'make your DDs sub NIN so the healer can keep sucking' thing. If somebody happens to be stupid and own an empyrean weapon man up and tell them to solo mobs. And you can't get azure why? What are your BLMs doing? A single BLM can -aga/-aja nuke worms down in a couple of nukes, and somehow this empyrean DD is killing all of them?


    There is a good reason the alliance you were in looked useless. It wasn't that one guy.
    This so much, SE really needs to put out a tutorial on how lights in abyssea work and that ruby isn't bad unless your alliance is horrible and full of people that are there to skill up. If that's the case it's doomed to fail. I love the mentality of zomfg don't ws.
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