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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Better question is why does anyone care? It doesn't matter anymore.
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    It's more to get insight on what exactly they had in mind when creating Absolute Virtue.

    They get asked dumb questions every day, so I figure this one at least gets some developers to let us in on their vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Better question is why does anyone care? It doesn't matter anymore.
    I'm actually pretty interested just because it was always that "unattainable goal" that so many players had
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    It's more to get insight on what exactly they had in mind when creating Absolute Virtue.
    I have come to believe that all of Chains of Promathia is a very dense metaphor for a failed marriage of a member of the development team, with Absolute Virtue representing the younger man for whom his wife eventually left him. I bet the design process really helped him work out his feelings from that difficult and painful time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Better question is why does anyone care? It doesn't matter anymore.
    An even better question is why does anyone care that anyone cares? It doesn't matter.

    You may not care, and I'm happy for you, but there's plenty of people who would love to hear the story behind AV. It involves this thing called curiosity. You might have heard of it. It's only the most basic human trait of like, oh I don't know, all time.

    And I guess only average joe's were trying to kill AV all that time. I didn't even know they managed to make it to AV status. No wonder no one ever beat it. The pros were smart enough not to bother with an encounter that can't be realistically won without being thrown a bone on how to do it. Yeah, just don't bother and wait 6 years for Perfect Defense. That's the trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    It involves this thing called curiosity. You might have heard of it. It's only the most basic human trait of like, oh I don't know, all time.

    Totally stealing that.
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Using 2-hours within a few seconds of him using them locks those 2-hours. From what I stand, these 2-hours are in certain groups. From our wiki:

    My understanding is if you lock all the 2-hours in a given group, you will lock that combo in bracelets mode (I could be wrong here, the information available to me isn't completely clear on this).

    Basically, with good strategy, strong groups can make it to bracelets mode (the last 1/3). But without locking him down, the combos and his very high damage make it extremely difficult to stay alive.

    As you know of course, no one really cares about any of this anymore. PD was very likely intended specifically to put stuff like this to rest.
    Your are ignorant, locking every 2H has been tested and showed no improvement. While we are at it explain PW too because the last phase is zombied since Astral flow was not figured last I checked.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 08-20-2011 at 06:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    SE hasn't released anything. Players have figured out most of the secrets. They're just no simple feat to pull off. With the level cap rise AV was left unchanged. Many games have bosses that are impossible or almost impossible and then become more winnable after a content update.
    You don't know crap. AV 2H were not the problem. Any 2H could easily be survived even manafont with fealthy and clever positionning. The problem is essentially centered around him being able to cast Meteor at any time under 50% HP (or something) without it being predictable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Better question is why does anyone care? It doesn't matter anymore.
    I'm kinda interested myself as well. Sorry that you don't seem to wonder what SE was thinking at the time. Kinda like when PW was 1st introduced. How did they expect anyone to beat that as well I wonder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    I'm kinda interested myself as well. Sorry that you don't seem to wonder what SE was thinking at the time. Kinda like when PW was 1st introduced. How did they expect anyone to beat that as well I wonder?
    I'm pretty sure we know what they were thinking.
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