[dev1024] Job Adjustments - BST

[Olor]

It has a pet. Apparently pet jobs are really hard for any team that works or has ever worked on FFXI to deal with. The new team is doing better than the old one, so I'll take it.

Yes, I am really happy with some of the new jugs they are adding. It does seem like they are trying, but sometimes I worry that they think every player has so much gil that they can afford job abilities that delete a consumable that can cost up to 14K each.

I have 70K on my char right now. I can't really afford a job ability that makes bst more expensive.

I just get frustrated cause I had to level whm because no one would invite me to do anything as bst - and soloing seal NMs is SUPER ineffective with no yellow proc. It just seems like BST could use something to make it really special and stand out - NOT something to make an unpopular job more expensive.

[Alhanelem]

Basically I just want to know why BST can't have a turn as one of the top five jobs. Why does it always have to remain crap tier?

I don't really consider bst to be "crap tier."

[Olor]

I don't really consider bst to be "crap tier."

Well it is awesome, admittably but not where it matters most of the time. Yes, the damage bonus versus the trashiest trash ever is great - but does that get invites?

I guess the fact that I would never get invited to work with others even to get the gear I would use on this job makes me feel like I am crap tier. Maybe it is a playerbase issue more than a programming issue, but this JA does nothing to improve that.

Honestly I would rather they scrap the level increase and actually BALANCE abyssea - where most of the gear I need is. But I haven't felt like logging in lately because I know if I want anything for my BST I will only have a chance to get it in a reasonable amount of time if I am white mage.

When I started to do quests for my seals I lost my will to really play.

I don't want to log in and "work" as a whm to get my gear for bst so I can "play" my video game. But the design is like that currently.

I guess this thread partially goes to my feelings about that.

[Elexia]

I bet it'll be a 5-10 min timer with a 20 second duration :3 I like BST, but honestly, we all know it's coming. I mean, look at Deus Ex Mac. for PUP, you can recall your maton with almost no MP/HP, if you get unlucky its pretty much boned by an AoE lol.

[Olor]

I would be fine if it was a sort of "beserk" that lowered the jug's defense. I get the idea of tradeoffs. But requiring us to

a) spend more gil
b) take up yet MORE slots of inventory to carry enough pets (I already have like 12 slots taken up at any given time)

Really makes me unhappy. I mean I just won't use this JA probably. So it is, if nothing else, a waste.

[SpankWustler]

I would be fine if it was a sort of "beserk" that lowered the jug's defense. I get the idea of tradeoffs. But requiring us to

a) spend more gil
b) take up yet MORE slots of inventory to carry enough pets (I already have like 12 slots taken up at any given time)

Really makes me unhappy. I mean I just won't use this JA probably. So it is, if nothing else, a waste.

I do agree with you on the "Berserk" bit. I'd love to have an ability that would make my pet hit much harder at the expense of making it too frail to take hits while solo.

Assuming they went this route rather than simply mirroring Berserk/Aggressor because the ability has a very powerful effect and relatively long duration, though, I'm fine with losing my jug pet for it. If it turns out to be +50% Attack for 1 minute, then I'll be complaining right alongside you.

I will readily admit I'm in a position to be much less bothered by gil cost than yourself. I'd like to commend you on having the huge balls (or ovaries) to level Beast Master as your first job to 90. That's not an easy thing to do.

[Ank]

Well it does kind of depend on how powerful this ability is. Its really all up in the air atm if its worth anything at all or if consuming the pet is a silly constraint or not.

[Olor]

ovaries, and yeah it was my first job to 90.

But after spending days responding to tells to have everyone go "What other jobs do you have? Can you come WHM?" I went back and leveled whm so I could gear bst. It really sucks not to be able to play the job I love though. I really with the Devs would actually revisit procs - have say double the procs with either one or the other being able to be used or something, because some jobs got a really raw deal.

[Fadnog]

I think its too early to tell whether burning the jug after the effect wears off makes it worthless or not. If Run Wild gives a massive boost for 5 mins, I think it will be well worth it, but I doubt it will be anything crazy. On the other hand if the boost is fairly marginal it wouldn't really be worth it. I personally believe that its too soon to say if the ability is really worth the trade off, because if the boost is significant I wouldn't mind send a little extra gil. So until we know the duration of effect and potency, I think its too early to start complaining.

Of course there is an easy way to fix this SE, make it so that we can by some useful jugs from NPCs or make the recipes easy and skill requirement low enough for everyone to make use of it.

[Zatias]

Maybe they should give BST a "Ninja Tool Expertise" or "Recycle"-type trait just for jugs.

It does nothing for the job in general, but it could cut its costs over time~