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    Player Rorrick's Avatar
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    Lowen
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    Ragnarok
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    MNK Lv 99
    So why is Temper, with its undefined potency and duration, a self-target only spell, while Corsair has access to a 25% Double Attack enhancement that affects the entire party?

    I'm not exactly keen on yet another buff I need to cycle cast (RDM has the highest enhancing skill in the game; why are all our buffs self-target or single-target only?), but the claim that this would allow RDM to make players into demigods seems somewhat nonsensical when you compare Temper to Fighter's Roll and Ifrit's favor.
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    Player Nefertiri's Avatar
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    Nefertiri
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    Quetzalcoatl
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    RNG Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by Rorrick View Post
    So why is Temper, with its undefined potency and duration, a self-target only spell, while Corsair has access to a 25% Double Attack enhancement that affects the entire party?
    It's only 24% at the very most. (When XI is rolled and WAR is in the group or commodore tricorne's effect proced.) Yet COR is also pretty shunned in Abyssea, so, well, yeah. I don't think having Temper castable on other members would really help anything in that regard.

    Ahh, Red Mage...maybe it's time that job got a small overhaul of sorts. Having Temper is a step in the direction of the...more interesting. In my very humble opinion, I think Red Mage SHOULD receive better close-combat abilities. They are meant to be jacks of all trades, no...? Versatility is supposed to be the name of the game, you should be able to nuke, heal, pull out your weapon or whatever you choose, but mostly everyone regards them as a WHM clone (and frankly that's just a tad boring, if you wanna stick to strict healing that badly, why not just level WHM?) - and, if you really think about it, how does that make them any different from SCH, who can also cast both schools of magic?

    The difference is in the potential dagger/swordplay, or at least its meant to be. While strict player-based pigeonholing and unwillingness to attempt the more unorthodox aspects of gameplay is certainly a problem, SE has done little to reinforce the ideal RDM image. Perhaps that will change soon, though.

    Perhaps the following will come across as the "right ideas." They're uh...kinda lame though~

    -Grant RDM the Accuracy Bonus trait.

    -Allow RDM to self-skillchain, at which point they can, ideally, magic burst off themselves. (If BLU can do it...)

    -Grant RDM access to the more coveted weaponskills, such as Vorpal Blade, and Dancing Edge for daggers.

    -New, unique lines of enspells(which, by all good reason, should be one of RDMs selling points.) Change tier-II enspells to work with both multiple hits and off-hand weapons. As they are, they provide nothing that the original enspells didn't. Aside from lol10magicevasiondifference. Certainly no justification for allowing a RDM to get to the front lines.

    -Add potency bonuses to the damage enspells do, as well as giving RDM the ability to augment them to enfeeble an enemy as well, possibly via a new JA of some kind. Enfire = Virus, Enblizzard = Paralyze, and so on.


    Those are just a few lame ideas on how the job's versatility can truly be expanded upon. If you want RDM to be a less-effective (and slightly more stylish) copy of WHM, then by all means...continue. Should their roles expand in different directions, however, I hope people learn to appreciate and enjoy it.

    (P.S: Many people seem to be forgetting Composure. Which not only lengthens durations of buffs on yourself, but enhances your physical accuracy. Composure + Temper = ????)

    (P.S.S: The above are strictly opinions of a crazy person, try not to lose your...Temper, over it. *snark*)
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    Player Lago's Avatar
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    Lago
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    Lakshmi
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    BLU Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stylin View Post
    We will be able to do that with the coming update, close a skillchain and nuke with Spontaneity. That job ability is going to be so much fun in it's uses.
    I think you mean double MB with Spantaneity, sir. ;3
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    Player Stylin's Avatar
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    Stylin
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    Carbuncle
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    RDM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Lago View Post
    I think you mean double MB with Spantaneity, sir. ;3
    That too. I meant to delete that when I saw "RDM should self-SC" in there too. In my defense I just woke up and missed that detail. lol
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Alvian
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    Phoenix
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    MNK Lv 12
    Thank heavens for the block user function.
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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Thank heavens for the block user function.
    OMG thank you, I didn't know it even existed.

    Just added Shiyo and will add more as they appear.

    I'm up for a healthy discussion with anyone, will ever debate the pro / con of just about anything. But I will not waste my time with trolls. I find the best way to deal with them is to ignore them and deny them the attention they crave. If everyone just ignored the trolls they'd eventually die off and go away.
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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Leviathan
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    DRK Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertiti
    -Add potency bonuses to the damage enspells do, as well as giving RDM the ability to augment them to enfeeble an enemy as well, possibly via a new JA of some kind. Enfire = Virus, Enblizzard = Paralyze, and so on.
    Camate already said the devs weren't going to do this. :/
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