Idiocy

[Vortex]

As long as I have a post with math backing up my position and you only post conjecture, you are incorrect. Facts > opinion. If you had actually read my post, you would have seen that outside abyssea is exactly where /rdm is superior to /sch.

Shit that you make up based off assumption is not correct, no, i have already proved through exprience that /sch is far superior, no sir, you are not correct, and as long as you keep subbing /rdm you will forever be on the back seat of good whms. i am done with this crap, keep subbing your rdm and using more MP,

outside /sch is far more effencint in every way, shape and form, you are obviously really bad at math or you simply are in comeplte denial. when i actually run out of mp as /sch i'll think about /rdm but it will never happen because i already know it's better after testing out /rdm my self. it sucks, period, end of story.

i am taking a risk seeing as this looks more like a troll post then anything, but i think you really are that dense in which case i am sorry for you. but yea, i am not going to keep going through this. exprience and knowing how to play the job speak louder then inaccurate numbers based off something you have never actually used your self. and i have yet to find anything in and outside abyssea where i run into MP issues, which further prooves you wrong, End.

[DebbieGibson]

Shit that you make up based off assumption is not correct, no, i have already proved through exprience that /sch is far superior, no sir, you are not correct, and as long as you keep subbing /rdm you will forever be on the back seat of good whms. i am done with this crap, keep subbing your rdm and using more MP,

outside /sch is far more effencint in every way, shape and form, you are obviously really bad at math or you simply are in comeplte denial. when i actually run out of mp as /sch i'll think about /rdm but it will never happen because i already know it's better after testing out /rdm my self. it sucks, period, end of story.

i am taking a risk seeing as this looks more like a troll post then anything, but i think you really are that dense in which case i am sorry for you. but yea, i am not going to keep going through this. exprience and knowing how to play the job speak louder then inaccurate numbers based off something you have never actually used your self. and i have yet to find anything in and outside abyssea where i run into MP issues, which further prooves you wrong, End.

DebbieGibson: 1
Vortex: 0

[Alhanelem]

DebbieGibson: 1
Vortex: 0

On the basis of grammar, maybe. But really the score is more like DebbieGibson: 0, Vortex: -1.

[Vortex]

DebbieGibson: 1
Vortex: 0

Ok so it was a troll, sue me. but seriously, if you can't face facts then i can't help you. don't need you to be spreading false bs about whm, we already have bad ones as is, don't need to breed more.

[DebbieGibson]

Ok so it was a troll, sue me. but seriously, if you can't face facts then i can't help you. don't need you to be spreading false bs about whm, we already have bad ones as is, don't need to breed more.

Not a troll

[Vortex]

Not a troll

So you really are that stupid? wow. my mistake. carry on. this is just getting redundent now have fun with learning whm. (if you are actually able to)

Oh, one more thing i didn't mention due to the ranting, Mp effecicney isnt the only reason sch beats rdm, you are forgetting other helpful features with the sj such as aoe aquaviel, stoneskin, ehanced skill boost for enfeebling as to be able to add more potency with fewer resist (if any) as well as celerity for quick casting on long casting and recast spells like raise hell even manifestation aspir has it's oppertunies, which you cannot do any of that as /rdm but this is the smarter side of whm i was talking about. food for thought. alrighty, done with this mess now. have fun.

[Soranika]

Vortex, you're assuming that one does not even know or have the capacity to play WHM if they do not absolutely sub SCH is the very essence of trolling harder than you care to admit. Yes, /sch is pretty much the definitive subjob for mages, but there are still advantages to using other such as /rdm still. Yes, access to convert IS very much one of them. I, quite frankly, would rather use convert once ever so often (definitely not every 10 minutes because there's never a situation where I'd have to convert EVERY 10 minutes) than sublimation every 10 minutes. Anyone spamming only Cure V and VI in abyssea is stupid. Anyone spamming Cure IV and V instead of just III and IV outside of abyssea is stupid also.

Spending several hours farming and fighting both Bukhis and Sedna with my LS, I've only had to use convert twice without temp items and those was only when things turned sour for the whole LS. The whole argument of conserving MP was stupid and you wait till your 'final' post to mention the other advantages of SCH which I mentioned several post back, strategems. But it's not often that a WHM needs to cast an aoe stoneskin when curing under Afflatus Solace makes sure to mitigate damage with stoneskin while those that who aren't getting hit get a wasted buff when expires. With Orison Cap +1 and +2, Divine Veil turns status healing magic aoe. It's not 100% but it works. Esuna is still there too, so under Afflatus Misery Esuna and Erase heals much more.

Celerity is nice I guess, but with fast cast gear (like what I currently have on my WHM now. Lots of healing magic cast reduction) casting and recast speed isn't all that hindered unless you're using divine magic and want to use white magic to proc faster in abyssea.

The only REAL benefit that I see with SCH that I could take to heart is light arts latent effect of turning one of my worst skilled abilities into a B+, which is enfeebling magic.... which I rarely use because there's other people in my parties that uses enfeebling magic. That's my reasoning right there for not subbing SCH. This is also coming to some one who played WHM before level cap.

[Dart]

pointless argument is pointless.


TROLL ON

[Korpg]

Celerity only is worth it for casting Raise/Reraise anyway.

The time it takes to use the job ability and casting the spell doesn't help at all. Unless it is a super long spell and recast time (hint: Raise).

[Leonlionheart]

Celerity only is worth it for casting Raise/Reraise anyway.

The time it takes to use the job ability and casting the spell doesn't help at all. Unless it is a super long spell and recast time (hint: Raise).

Recast -50% says hi...

Stun every 17 seconds, you can have this

Edit: In terms of WHM, though, it's true that it's not of much use other than raise/reraise.