dev1024 - healing magic

[Hyrist]

The problem isn't that it's the go-to healer, the problem is that it's the only healer.

Only SOLO healer.

Cure loads can be manged by multiple mages/jobs of varying types who have cure capacities.

Stack some MP on a war/whm...

And you wonder why I ask for buffs in the melee and buffing department? In light curing load situations RDM offers little to the table, buffs in both of these aspects would correct that easily.

Right now you may bring a single red mage per alliance if the monster isn't immune to enfeebles, but scholars have to compete with specialists when they focus on healing or nuking because they get incrementally worse as they swap between the two.

Scholar already seems to be getting a better line of unique spells, particularly in the 2hr department. Not only do I expect our enfeebling game to improve for more difficult monsters, and that Scholar get a more unique set of spells to assit with, that's part of my flat out demands in them filling the order they put out with the Manifesto.

Honestly, I have the same policy for us main healing, as people do for Red Mages melee. When it matters, you're not supposed to be the one doing it over a specalist. Only difference is, because you CAN do it safely, you can help out. But I would expect the main role of a RDM would be to support with buffs and enfeeble, tossing out back up cures, status cures, and nukes when available to do so.

But there's no reason to expect RDM to solo heal difficult situations. Either split the duty or invite a WHM and have us support it. We have a specialty and we should be doing that, it just needs to be improved upon.

[Ahrana]

Cure loads can be manged by multiple mages/jobs of varying types who have cure capacities.

Or you could drop all the dead weight, get a whm, bard, and a few DD's and kill twice as many NM's in the same amount of time.

I haven't played anything but white mage when I go out with my LS in over a month simply because it's the backbone of everything end game right now. Once you have a white mage and a few solid DD's you can fill the rest of your alliance with scrubs and window lickers and still be effective.

[Eth]

I support the OP. Right now, RDM is dead as far as abyssea is concerned. Not just second choice, but dead. Tripple-atma powered WHM is all the support that's needed for most situations, and if it isn't enough, then you take two of them. But there is no situation that calls for RDM anymore.

The idea that giving RDM Cure V would de-throne WHM as the most desired and principal choice for healer is just not plausible. Lack of cureskin and cure potency gear would make RDM Cure V gimped compared to WHM cure V. And RDM wouldn't have Cure VI in case a tank requires an urgent, large cure right after you've already cast Cure V.