[Dev1024] - Job-Adjustments - War.

[Leonlionheart]

I call troll, there's no one who can literally think DRK is that great

I have both jobs, Cala and Ukon, and it's immensely clear that WAR scorches the shit out of DRK

Also, on new VWNM, Gekko>Fudo>Kaiten makes SAM pretty lulztastic

[Darriken]

I call troll, there's no one who can literally think DRK is that great

I have both jobs, Cala and Ukon, and it's immensely clear that WAR scorches the shit out of DRK

You aren't a very good DRK then

[Neisan_Quetz]

Sam at the very least has blade bash (even on a timer) and enhances seigan/TE, so they're still edging out war in damage mitigation, bar the Nms you listed.

[Glacont]

I call troll, there's no one who can literally think DRK is that great

I have both jobs, Cala and Ukon, and it's immensely clear that WAR scorches the shit out of DRK

Also, on new VWNM, Gekko>Fudo>Kaiten makes SAM pretty lulztastic

Weather your statment is True or not, what's the use of bashing other jobs? I myself am pro War & Sam, whom also owns a Uko, but at the same time I don't see a reason to look down on others. All jobs have somthing to offer. This is not Cool. Having different views on a subject matter is one thing, but when You start attacking ppl's job class just because You feel superior is all wrong. You may have a wealth of knowledge, but right now you're not conducting yourself accordingly. Maybe Churchhill is right about You. Right now I am ashame you're even in My job class. You can troll this post all you want. You won't get any response out of Me.

[Leonlionheart]

Was mainly talking to Leon about that. Anyways, but the Best possible WAR, DRK, and SAM, will come pretty close to each other, on those Tyger parses I stated I'm sure they weren't playing to the best. The best WAR i know is my brother, best possible WAR gear pretty much, and he always came slightly behind me.

Have you played DRK in high end VW before?
50% of the time you're casting magic to proc, 40% of the time you're using subpar GS and Scythe WS's, or maybe even Club or Sword.
10% you get to pull out your weapon of choice and start WSing during blitzes. Hard to call that a real damage dealer.
SAM is similar, but it can DD (w/ aftermath) if you're stacking enough attack, though many situations you won't be capping accuracy so it becomes a problem. Sometimes comes out on top in terms of WS damage, but lack of accuracy food can hurt it pretty bad if you're on in a gutter w/ procs and temps.

I was making a crack about how DRK is forced to play in VW (is it even a DD anymore?) since essentially all you do is try to proc and your damage elsewise (without massive support, as stated elsewhere in this thread) is severely subpar in the end.

Maybe a Redemption would change my mind, but there are like 40 of them or something in the game, and I've never seen Quietus out parse guillotine by much.

Edit: @Glacont: Maybe if SE reads testimonials from players about how underpowered certain jobs are in relevant content that occasionally resembles a challenge they will do something that can actually fix said jobs? Either way, falsehoods are falsehoods and should be pointed out.

[Darriken]

Have you played DRK in high end VW before?
50% of the time you're casting magic to proc, 40% of the time you're using subpar GS and Scythe WS's, or maybe even Club or Sword.
10% you get to pull out your weapon of choice and start WSing during blitzes. Hard to call that a real damage dealer.
SAM is similar, but it can DD (w/ aftermath) if you're stacking enough attack, though many situations you won't be capping accuracy so it becomes a problem. Sometimes comes out on top in terms of WS damage, but lack of accuracy food can hurt it pretty bad if you're on in a gutter w/ procs and temps.

I was making a crack about how DRK is forced to play in VW (is it even a DD anymore?) since essentially all you do is try to proc and your damage elsewise (without massive support, as stated elsewhere in this thread) is severely subpar in the end.

Maybe a Redemption would change my mind, but there are like 40 of them or something in the game, and I've never seen Quietus out parse guillotine by much.

Edit: @Glacont: Maybe if SE reads testimonials from players about how underpowered certain jobs are in relevant content that occasionally resembles a challenge they will do something that can actually fix said jobs? Either way, falsehoods are falsehoods and should be pointed out.

I own an apocalypse and I play endgame (Voidwatch) on it everyday. And that's the same way with everyjob, you get a hint for a weapon you have, and do subpar WS for it. And you are really underrating DRK's ability to put out DMG, but I guess that's useless telling to you because it seems like you are one of those WAR's who when they get an Ukon they think they are the hottest thing ever (I've seen a lot of them go through the Linkshell I'm in right now), and when it comes down to performing, they don't put out. I'm not saying WAR is bad, not at all, it's a phenominal DD just too many people overrate it nowadays. Abyssea is over, some people need to get over themselves.

[Leonlionheart]

I agree Ukon is overrated, simply because you can't become the best just by having it like most people think. Seen too many Ukons in full AF3+2 wsing in twilight helm/mail and then wondering why they aren't doing OMG damage like in all the SS's. Then, to top it off, 90% of them don't know what PDT or MDT means which is the biggest part of endgame play.

However, I tank on WAR whenever I get the chance to actually play it, so no; I'm not just proccing like other jobs.

WAR, MNK, SAM can actually be up there smacking the mob with their weapon of choice because they can take a hit and deal enough damage to warrant them being up there. Every DRK I've played with does subpar WS's and dps, and dies too quickly. I'm sure that DRK could tank if applied correctly, don't know why no one ever tries.

[Darriken]

I agree Ukon is overrated, simply because you can't become the best just by having it like most people think. Seen too many Ukons in full AF3+2 wsing in twilight helm/mail and then wondering why they aren't doing OMG damage like in all the SS's. Then, to top it off, 90% of them don't know what PDT or MDT means which is the biggest part of endgame play.

However, I tank on WAR whenever I get the chance to actually play it, so no; I'm not just proccing like other jobs.

WAR, MNK, SAM can actually be up there smacking the mob with their weapon of choice because they can take a hit and deal enough damage to warrant them being up there. Every DRK I've played with does subpar WS's and dps, and dies too quickly. I'm sure that DRK could tank if applied correctly, don't know why no one ever tries.

That is where i have to agree with you. For some reason DRK is the job, people who want to suck at this game play. A lot of WARs are smart and carry around PDT and MDT sets and play the job well. Most DRKs I play with are absolutely terrible. They only switch between TP and WS gear and that is why I think people get the idea that DRK is bad, is because the people who play it.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Gonna agree for my server that job seems to be... Gonna go with War since I see way too many uther's grips and I just smh every time I see them... the 5/5 Emp/fulltime twilight head/body Ukon Wars make me cringe as well.

If they have a PDT set it's llike fulltime Grim if that...

[Leonlionheart]

There's a lot of that on Asura. I can literally count on 1 hand the amount of WAR's I've played with that actually have decent PDT MDT sets.

I can't even count the amount of DRK's I've played with that have good PDT MDT sets because, well, there've been none.