Quote Originally Posted by Dfoley View Post
I just dont see a need for amber light generation.

Just like i dont see it for assurans fists.

To this day no one has given a valid argument why we need it that doesn't start with 'when i low man abyssea'. In which case you should have a mnk/war/nin/whm/blm/blu where any one of those can get amber.

I love pup, but its not built for low man. Its built for solo, single group party content (read as exping old school), and endgame (low man abyssea isnt end game).
You're completely wrong on that point, because you're not talking about "low man", you're talking about "absolute minimum party member efficiency with triggering in abyssea". Pup is one of the best low-man jobs in the game, given how easily pup can fill in any slot in a low number group (melee DD, magic DD, heal, limited support, limited tank). You're correct that pup isn't designed for !!proc efficiency, but that's not fucking "low man". Pup excels in solo, Single Party, Single Alliance, and most End Game content (I say most while thinking about einherjar...)

Also, being able to proc red is incredibly useful if you're solo-trigger farming. Mnk and pup are both really solid solo jobs in abyssea, but neither of them are capable of effectively solo farming gold chests for triggers. That's the only reason any of us want an elemental h2h WS (which it does technically need, since it's one of two weapons without a single elemental WS; the other being great axe. Though, for anyone using axe besides bst, axe has no elemental WS either, but since primal rend is elemental axe has an elemental ws.)