New ability (posted in jp)

[Dfoley]

Just a heads up, cooldown was changed from 10 -> 5 minutes, expect a post at 3-5pm cst saying that as well sense it was posted in jp already.


While considerably more useful then before.... I still don't see myself ever using it with my play-style/gear being as I haven't overloaded since I got my +2.

[Lunani]

When I first heard about tornado kick, I really thought it would've been a wind based ws xD but yeah, its a bit irritating how 3/4 of jobs are redundant in abyssea, but it would be nice if there was some variety of ele ws available to pup that didn't come from changing out equipment entirely, at least mnk using staff has a skill to warrent it, not a c- or d skill weapon that pretty much either requires specific atma to make use out of effectively.

[xiozen]

When I first heard about tornado kick, I really thought it would've been a wind based ws xD but yeah, its a bit irritating how 3/4 of jobs are redundant in abyssea, but it would be nice if there was some variety of ele ws available to pup that didn't come from changing out equipment entirely, at least mnk using staff has a skill to warrent it, not a c- or d skill weapon that pretty much either requires specific atma to make use out of effectively.

Doesn't PUP have access to Aeolian Edge, which is an elemental weaponskill? Knowing this, do we really need a native elemental weaponskill? I personally don't think so...unless I'm missing something.

[xbobx]

Yes, they have access to Aeolian Edge but have to switch to dagger. Most jobs get to keep their best weapon to do amber, a couple jobs can't.

[Theytak]

the annoying thing is that pup does have magical WS, in the form of cannibal blade, and I think Magic Mortar. Of course, despite being magical WS that never miss and are magical ws, they don't give magical ws light (amber), they give physical ws light (ruby). but hey, pup's totally working as intended.

[Zhronne]

Of course, despite being magical WS that never miss and are magical ws, they don't give magical ws light (amber), they give physical ws light (ruby). but hey, pup's totally working as intended.

The same happens with a couple of other WSs as well. I remember being pretty surprised when that happened to me on Ninja the early days of Abyssea.

[Kristal]

the annoying thing is that pup does have magical WS, in the form of cannibal blade, and I think Magic Mortar. Of course, despite being magical WS that never miss and are magical ws, they don't give magical ws light (amber), they give physical ws light (ruby). but hey, pup's totally working as intended.

Cannibal Blade and Magic Mortar are both 100% physical weaponskills, despite similarities to other weaponskills (Sanguine Blade), naming ("Magic") or animations. With Magic Mortar being little more then a Chainbound(Fusion) automaton JA that consumes all TP and rarely deals damage.

[Kristal]

Yes, they have access to Aeolian Edge but have to switch to dagger. Most jobs get to keep their best weapon to do amber, a couple jobs can't.

Actualy, they don't. Only when they sub THF, RDM, BRD, RNG, DNC or NIN. /DNC and /NIN are common enough on PUPs I guess, but go /WAR and you end up having to use Gust Slash. Which is as effective as a wet fart.

[Theytak]

Cannibal Blade and Magic Mortar are both 100% physical weaponskills, despite similarities to other weaponskills (Sanguine Blade), naming ("Magic") or animations. With Magic Mortar being little more then a Chainbound(Fusion) automaton JA that consumes all TP and rarely deals damage.

Then is it my imagination, or my memories failing? I swear I've had cannibal blade do damage while physical shield effects were up. Magic Mortar I was completely guessing, though. and it's not like we'd ever actually manage to get a kill shot with it anyway (see your description of the effectiveness of gust slash)

[Kristal]

Cannibal Blade is a slashing damage WS with some weird properties. It's based on Automaton Melee Skill, TP, enemy slashing resistance and distance to target. Anything else is ignored. I'm not sure about CB vs. Physical Shield, but like MM it doesn't follow the normal rules for damage. I think Magic Mortar ignores anything and everything, assuming you can actually make it deal more then 0 dmg, but I haven't seen it myself yet. (Due to lack of need for PUP in Abyssea..)