Merton Vs Odin: What the hell SE?

[SpankWustler]

The title is pointing out the inconsistent levels of potency in what appears to be a 2-hour spell.

Wouldn't it be more logical to compare Odin's usefulness to that of Alexander, which can be seen as Odin's opportunity cost, rather than to a spell that doesn't exist yet?

Also, I'm sure Alexander is more useful than Merton will be, so it would probably be more productive for you as well. Using Merton as a yard stick, your argument is "Make Odin able to kill a bunch of Easy Prey Plantoids."

[Tarage]

At this point, I would take that, because it's a hell of a lot more useful than only hitting about 4 Easy Prey Plantoids. SE has proven they really have no damn clue how SMN is played. Stunga? Really? Stop being stupid.

[Orson]

Man people are whiners especially about pet jobs.

[Ank]

Most of us agree that odin sucks. Hell some of us agree that all astral flows suck except alexander. There's no need to put people on the defensive by trying to call them out like merton.

[Eric]

Jesus Christ, summoners are some of the most demanding players on these boards. 2hrs haven't been balanced from the start. Do you see NIN complaining because their 2HR does terrible damage, and . . . oh wait, KILLS THEM?

SCH is lacking in a lot of aspects. Let us have a cool 2HR move. It won't break the game. It won't make SMN worse. If SCH were anywhere near overpowered, it wouldn't be 18th on the Vana'diel Census list. How come we didn't hear all this moaning about Odin before the video of Merton popped up? Sure, Odin was never too great to begin with, but truth be told, some of the SMN's on this board are just green with envy. 2 hours aren't what determine whether or not a job is balanced. Just be happy that your 2 hour move isn't instant suicide.

[Korpg]

In Abyssea, the MP would be better spent on Shiva's Diamond Dust than it would be for Odin's Zantetsuken. Outside of Abyssea, as long as the mob Odin is targeting actually gets killed, then no worries.

Yeah, Odin's ability sucks, but think about it. When Odin/Alexander were introduced, what was the fastest way to get to 75? AF burns were the rage then, and SE didn't want Odin to become the choice of AFB, even though you still had to be level 75 to cast it (and therefor not AFB able). So they limited the number of mobs you can kill in a group. Which was fine, but still.

Fast forward to today, and you get Abyssea burns, which can get a level 30 to 90 within hours. So, Odin's gimpness isn't in effect because there are other ways to burn. So, they need to fix Odin's accuracy to kill more mobs because the reason why they gimped it in the first place doesn't exist anymore. Then maybe Odin will be used more often now.

[Soundwave]

Jesus Christ, summoners are some of the most demanding players on these boards. 2hrs haven't been balanced from the start. Do you see NIN complaining because their 2HR does terrible damage, and . . . oh wait, KILLS THEM?

SCH is lacking in a lot of aspects. Let us have a cool 2HR move. It won't break the game. It won't make SMN worse. If SCH were anywhere near overpowered, it wouldn't be 18th on the Vana'diel Census list. How come we didn't hear all this moaning about Odin before the video of Merton popped up? Sure, Odin was never too great to begin with, but truth be told, some of the SMN's on this board are just green with envy. 2 hours aren't what determine whether or not a job is balanced. Just be happy that your 2 hour move isn't instant suicide.

People have asked for Odin adjustment your just picking and choosing what you want to read in this thread from the looks of it.

[Eric]

People have asked for Odin adjustment your just picking and choosing what you want to read in this thread from the looks of it.

You want to show me the other 100+ post threads about how Odin needs to be fixed?

[Soundwave]

Lets be realistic, its not 100, [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] take time to read some threads, they are in the summoner job section knock yourself out man

[Eric]

Lets be realistic, its not 100, stop pulling numbers out of your ass and take time to read some threads, they are in the summoner job section knock yourself out man

100 post threads.

As in threads with 100 posts.