Subjob for melee SMN?

[Economizer]

I can pop out 800+ Garland of Bliss on mobs if I gear right for it.

Thank you. Was this inside or outside Abyssea, and if it was inside, what Atma were you using?

I'm really hoping your answer is outside Abyssea, because that means Atma of the Beyond could put it into the thousand damage range.

That said, it sounds like Cataclysm would get better damage while still being AOE. I wonder if with /WHM and Diabolos's Phalanx you could solo farm some chests.

[Economizer]

Melee SMN... in a party? People on my server aren't that generous towards SMN. Most seem to still think with a pre-75 cap mentality about the job. =\

Since most of the exp these days is in burn style alliances, yeah, at least in exp parties. I've only gotten kicked out of one party for meleeing as a White Mage in Abyssea (although I rarely party, and most of the time if I do, it is to be lazy in some sort of trial and I don't melee) but I did so after watching another White Mage do so, and the guy who kicked me invited his friend and started badmouthing me in the party (I had other friends in the party). They started to die repeatedly despite doing fine when I was in the party (and replacing me and a BST they also booted with two healers). I proceeded to sit there for ten minutes laughing at them and my friend in the party walked out and left without warning (he was some DD job). The take away here is that only incredibly, horrifically bad players will tell you that you can't melee if you are doing your job already in an exp party.

[Soranika]

Since most of the exp these days is in burn style alliances, yeah, at least in exp parties. I've only gotten kicked out of one party for meleeing as a White Mage in Abyssea (although I rarely party, and most of the time if I do, it is to be lazy in some sort of trial and I don't melee) but I did so after watching another White Mage do so, and the guy who kicked me invited his friend and started badmouthing me in the party (I had other friends in the party). They started to die repeatedly despite doing fine when I was in the party (and replacing me and a BST they also booted with two healers). I proceeded to sit there for ten minutes laughing at them and my friend in the party walked out and left without warning (he was some DD job). The take away here is that only incredibly, horrifically bad players will tell you that you can't melee if you are doing your job already in an exp party.

Oh no no, I've never had an issue in exp/crour parties when it came to meleeing on SMN. It's outside Abyssea where I want to focus again that I have an issue at.
And LOL, that's a bit cruel, don't you think?

[Dallas]

Everyone knows the main subs.


/sam for pure damage and speed. Very dangerous with Hver.

/dnc for OA4 Yantok +2. Obviously a support sub. This setup has virtually unlimited TP for steps. It also can improve avatar damage through debuffs. Most important, I believe this setup has stun flourish. Perfect for meleeing spellcasters of a random element. I haven't played with this much because of the next sub.

/whm for Abyssea. Procs. Cure 4. Raise. Lame.

I keep my eye out for new uses for /war, /thf, and /mnk. I haven't seen any uses but damage, which /Sam still wins. Perhaps a good /war + perp build would work alongside Ifrit's favor for berserk support. I've also wondered about Ramuh's favor.

[Economizer]

And LOL, that's a bit cruel, don't you think?

They never asked me to stop, they never booted the other WHM who was meleeing, and we were fighting frogs. There was absolutely no reason to kick me aside from getting friends of the party leader into the party. Who couldn't do their job right.

Cruel would have been to farm a party on top of them using 2/3 of their alliance and a third party of meleeing White Mages.

[Dallas]

There was a few days in between completing yantok and full understanding of blue pyxides when some idiot wanted me to help 2x WHM heal an alliance that wasn't taking damage. I walked, and they ran out of time.

The herd is thinned on its own. Let it happen.

[Korpg]

It was outside Abyssea, on crabs in the tree.

I was killing for Retribution unlocking for the fun of it, didn't want to do it on WAR, so I went as SMN. EP crabs and having Shiva's Favor up for kicks to see how much my Garland's of Bliss would do, brought out all the MAB gear that SMN can equip also.

[Razushu]

There was a few days in between completing yantok and full understanding of blue pyxides when some idiot wanted me to help 2x WHM heal an alliance that wasn't taking damage. I walked, and they ran out of time.

The herd is thinned on its own. Let it happen.

Wth kind of alliance was completely reliant on a meleeSMN for... well anything?

[Soundwave]

Garland of Bliss with Jormy pole =D

[Soranika]

Wth kind of alliance was completely reliant on a meleeSMN for... well anything?

A smn with the right atma and in a weak, under leveled/gimped party like they usually tend to be.