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    If you just are responding to the OP and not my idea, I kindly ask you to ignore this post. (Except for the very last part)

    Quote Originally Posted by Smush View Post
    NO please keep rudra storm the same way its a good ws outside unstacked
    Right off the bat, No its not. Evisceration is precisely 5.0fTP if all 5 hits land (i think 6.0 Technically if you're dual wielding? someone correct me if I'm wrong), and can crit. its Mods are only DEX:30 (30% less than Rudra's) but crit and higher fTP by far (at 100%) makes up for it.

    Dancing Edge, is 5.1875 (6.1875 if Dual wielding, again correct me if im misunderstanding that), With Better mod oppurtunity (DEF:30 CHR:40 over DEX:60)

    Rudra's, at 100%TP, is 3.25(4.25 dual wield?), so right off the bat its already behind in that regard. Unless you sub an Inferior offhand weapon (Fussetto +2) then it becomes 4.25(5.25?), which even still is behind Evis and DE.

    Its bad compared to the above too, and will always average lower unstacked unless you save to 300%TP, even then Evisc still has the capacity to outperform it thanks to it being able to Crit.

    it does do good when you add in the after math and you can stacked its great on new voidwatch nms i have done 2.3-3.7k Stacked
    No one denies its good stacked, for the record, changing it to a Crit WS will do absolutely nothing to its Stacked Damage (unless they adjust fTP mods as a result)

    And in abyssea its not weak at all its just not a crit ws
    Yes it is, and not being able to crit without forcing through SA/TA is precisely why its a weak WS (unstacked). its the same reason DRK and SAM lost their shine in Abyssea. But frankly This isn't about abyssea. Again, Its very strong stacked.

    so why would you even compare it to thos and when stacked it does crit in abyssea and i have had it do 5-7.6k inside you can check the link in my sig for thes SS.
    I do not debate its powerful stacked.

    its 100% fine the way it is
    No its not unless you enjoy mediocrity restricted by JA timers?

    i would be very upset if they change it.
    Why would you be upset if they changed it so its more powerful unstacked, and its stacked power is unchanged?

    abyssea is not the only part of the game nor will it be the main part in the future.
    Abyssea has nothing to do with it. You have 2WS one is 5.0fTP, can't crit, one has 5.0fTP, can crit, Which one will do more damage? Abyssea didn't make Crits good, It made them better.

    Again, i mention, THF and DNC are both very limited jobs thanks to the Devs vision of them, DNC with its Waltz timers and general lack of needs, and THF and its lack of everything. Do our WS truly have to be on a "Useful only SA/TA'd" Limitation as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    Making Rudra's more powerful isn't going to make THF more useful for hate management than other jobs, or make it wanted for anything other than TH.
    Well, ignoring that I've never heard a single person say "We can't do this fight without a THF for Enmity control and hate management", On the topic of Treasure hunter... According to recent tests (dont right here), Treasure Hunter beyond the "Treasure Hunter II" job trait does so very little that you're likely better off having a BRD or something sub THF and replace the THF with a real DD.

    THF being my favorite job, that makes me incredibly sad lol
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 08-18-2011 at 02:13 AM.

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