With all the changes, do you think SE is trying to end us/this

[chubrocka]

Wow I guess i came to the wrong place for an adult conversation. And my mother passed in this life, so ty very much for your kind thought.

Nothing was said out of pity, jest, rant or rave. Its a thought, nothing more from.

[Inafking]

Wow I guess i came to the wrong place for an adult conversation.

Adults know that money making companies try to make money. Not try and use childish annoyances to make their players want to quit. Everything you've mentioned had more to do with trying to draw new / retired players in and make more money per month off the ones they have. If you wish to be treated as an adult, start thinking like one.

[Michae]

Look at it this way, se can say "we are closing all servers and ending the game in a year". That would cause a major drop off in playership, servers would have to be quickly merged, alot of ppl would be out of work overnight and players would grumble because they were unable to complete everything they wanted to in the game.

If you make it incredibly easy (as they have), ppl can get everything done they wanted to and move on, causing playership to gradually drop, server merging would be slower, some ppl would stay out of hope for new content. Some players would be more willing move on to XIV (which is getting better and better) and whatever their new mmo is going to be because they are satisfied with thier xi experience and want to play other se games due to that experience. They can remove workers off xi to other projects gradually so there would be less lay offs and they could still milk xi for awhile. Then when they finally make the one year announcement they only have a couple servers and a handful of ppl working on xi anyway and its no big deal if it tanks. Its a great business strategy really.

But long story short (too late), yes I believe its the end times for ffxi. Makes me sad, I miss the game and would like to play more, I just have nothing to do and my ls has fell apart due to ppl leaving the game already.

[chubrocka]

Look at it this way, se can say "we are closing all servers and ending the game in a year". That would cause a major drop off in playership, servers would have to be quickly merged, alot of ppl would be out of work overnight and players would grumble because they were unable to complete everything they wanted to in the game.

If you make it incredibly easy (as they have), ppl can get everything done they wanted to and move on, causing playership to gradually drop, server merging would be slower, some ppl would stay out of hope for new content. Some players would be more willing move on to XIV (which is getting better and better) and whatever their new mmo is going to be because they are satisfied with thier xi experience and want to play other se games due to that experience. They can remove workers off xi to other projects gradually so there would be less lay offs and they could still milk xi for awhile. Then when they finally make the one year announcement they only have a couple servers and a handful of ppl working on xi anyway and its no big deal if it tanks. Its a great business strategy really.

But long story short (too late), yes I believe its the end times for ffxi. Makes me sad, I miss the game and would like to play more, I just have nothing to do and my ls has fell apart due to ppl leaving the game already.

Thank you for your thought. I agree with you. Thank you too for not being childish in the response.

[Alhanelem]

My thoughts? I'm sick of these threads.

They're not "trying to end this." They're making money. There's no reason to do anything like that until they have something else that is making more money, and right now they probably don't have much if anything else in video games that's making much money. It's the manga/media business that's really bringing it in.

[Horadrim]

My thoughts? I'm sick of these threads.

They're not "trying to end this." They're making money. There's no reason to do anything like that until they have something else that is making more money, and right now they probably don't have much if anything else in video games that's making much money. It's the manga/media business that's really bringing it in.

Manga and Anime are kind of lackluster industry these days -- particularly anime.

That aside... I agree.

Gamers are so prone to sensationalism, its ridiculous.

[Michae]

lol just refer to my above post, they are making money and bringing the game to a close, its a common business practice that still allows them to make money and ensure playership in future games. ffxi was not going to run forever, its been nearly a decade and they are bringing to an end any way a good business person would. They would never just turn off the servers lol.

[BurnNotice]

I strongly disagree that SE is trying to "End" FFXI. Instead, they've talked about expanding the game even further beyond its current limits. Don't let the level cap increase and easy leveling process fool you into thinking that the game has lost its fun-factor and only catering to a specific audience. The changes, refinements, and implementations being shown this year is to have us read for the big battles ahead of us.

Granted, I am not an SE/FFXI Insider or anything, but the development team made it very clear that there will be some big installments that will not only give current, loyal players a bang for their buck, but it will even bring back the retirees to the game with an appetite for adventuring and fighting for a very long time.

At level 99 (or 100) cap, we still have to face Beastmen, HNMs, storylines that far exceeds our cap. Think back when we finally hit lvl 75. Didn't things get a bit more interesting? Wasn't the significance of being capped at 75 was us not only grow into our jobs, but to perfect it by building skills, knowledge, and be the expert in that job?

For the people that have all their jobs at 90, how many of them have perfected their job(s)? This game has never been about lvling to 90 and falling out because everyone has been hitting it, its been about team development with people who are experts in their chosen job(s) that understands the battlefield they've entered with their comrades. Fights like Pandemonium Warden, Absolute Virtue, Odin Prime, and any lvl 85+ HNM at our lvl 75 time are prime examples. We will be facing these kind of battles once again.

Give SE's Development Team sometime to work things in. I assure you guys they wont disappoint us.

[Alhanelem]

They aren't "bringing the game to a close.' It's not going to be "over" any time real soon. It's not a tactic or a strategy. People are only saying stuff like this because they think SE is trying to be difficult on purpose, and they're not. They might have some semi-clueless people on the business end, but I guarantee you the payment frustrations are not a product of SE going "Hm, we're sick of keeping this game. What can we do to make people leave?"

[Elexia]

Honestly, use common sense. XI is about 10 years old and they said they'd run it as long as people are willing to play it, BUT at one point every business comes to terms that "it costs too much to operate versus what we're making in profit" and will slowly phase a product out, MMORPGs are the main service that slowly phases out.

They can't just go:
"Yawn I think we'll end XI today, switch it all off."

That's bad business practice but they do have the right to do so if they felt like it and no one can complain as you agreed to it when you signed up (actually read the terms and eula, they're there for a reason.) I honestly wouldn't mind seeing XI ended as I've played since the start but as long as it is making them money it's highly unlikely they'll end it BUT a lot of recent decision can indeed hurt the playerbase, especially come next month.