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    Player Kojo's Avatar
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    Too much to ask?

    Is it too much to ask that certain Abyssea NMs rage? I just lost 25-30 mins of my time watching some NIN slowlo Audumbla, and refuse help from 2 different groups that would rather just have her out of the way that take her drops. The NIN was very RMTesque.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Player Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Tell me about it. I know someone who abuses how much PDT avatars can get, and spends hours soloing NMs on SMN. That's really not courteous to any of the other players.
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    He once sold his soul to Promathia for a rare drop. He later won it back in a drinking contest, before beating up the twilight god for good measure.
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    I don't mind soloers or anything of the sort... but when there's a pile of players waiting it isn't very "respectful" in my opinion. Rage would be one of the options, but I'd like other option if there is any so those players can still solo if they want.
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    Just add multiple ??? for each poppable NM in Abyssea, not just the empy weapon item dropping ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    Tell me about it. I know someone who abuses how much PDT avatars can get, and spends hours soloing NMs on SMN. That's really not courteous to any of the other players.
    It shouldn't take any SMN longer than 20 minutes to solo anything. If they are taking longer than that, then odds are, they are going to die.

    Although I will admit it took me 30 minutes to solo Ovni for my belt that I don't use anymore lol
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    This is one of those issues where there is no "right side" and "wrong side." Look at it from the other person's point of view. As it stands atm, they did get there first, and it is on a first come, first served basis. It's their pop, they have claim; any rage timer is arbitrary. When exactly is it mob holding? Even a 20-30 minute rage timer is 20-30 minutes of just standing around waiting for your turn... is that really a solution?

    I believe the solution is to allow for multiple instances of the same popped NM. This way, soloists can take as long as they need, and large groups can plow through several pops as fast as they can.
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    You have too look at it from the other persons point of view. If they accepted your help you could be a jerk, invite them steal their monster kick them from the party take their drops. Yes this does happen in abyssea, most people really don't care about anyone but themself. But its the way FFXI and abyssea was designed you have to share a zone with a bunch of other people. So why would a soloer want to run the risk of having their mob and drops stolen just to be done a little faster when they are capable of soloing it?

    It seems to be the way FFXI is now. People can solo a majority of things, lots of people get multiple accounts so they can duo box empyrean weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panthera View Post
    This is one of those issues where there is no "right side" and "wrong side." Look at it from the other person's point of view. As it stands atm, they did get there first, and it is on a first come, first served basis. It's their pop, they have claim; any rage timer is arbitrary. When exactly is it mob holding? Even a 20-30 minute rage timer is 20-30 minutes of just standing around waiting for your turn... is that really a solution?

    I believe the solution is to allow for multiple instances of the same popped NM. This way, soloists can take as long as they need, and large groups can plow through several pops as fast as they can.
    Wrong, we were there first. We also offered help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kojo View Post
    Is it too much to ask that certain Abyssea NMs rage? I just lost 25-30 mins of my time watching some NIN slowlo Audumbla, and refuse help from 2 different groups that would rather just have her out of the way that take her drops. The NIN was very RMTesque.
    If it's any consolation, that Ninja will have to live with his own awful equipment/atma/etc. indefinitely but you only lost a half-hour. I don't want to imagine what somebody would have to wear and do to spend 30 minutes soloing Audumbla.

    Sure, I can, but I really don't want to!

    I could get behind 20 minute rage timers for Abyssea, but I think that's mostly me being malicious towards people who don't know how to put on a pair of pants in either FFXI or real life.
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    When are you going to learn that waiting is the core of the gameplay in FFXI?
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