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    Player Zoner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I don't know how anyone in their right mind can want even more buffs. The recent buffs were a complete mistake and it needs to be brought down a lot. That includes all empyrean WS and gear, as well as caps on certain effects.
    Wouldn't it be better to bring Relic and Mythic WS up rather then bring Empyrean down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoner View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to bring Relic and Mythic WS up rather then bring Empyrean down?
    No .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    No .
    no, because relic and mythic is lvl 75 old content. When lvl 75 stuff starts to equal or trump the lvl 90 stuff, this game doesnt know how to do it correctly. And maybe SE should study WoW or LoTrO closely to learn something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordanthos View Post
    no, because relic and mythic is lvl 75 old content. When lvl 75 stuff starts to equal or trump the lvl 90 stuff, this game doesnt know how to do it correctly. And maybe SE should study WoW or LoTrO closely to learn something.
    Very little in this game is done correctly. SE should study Blizzard, not WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Very little in this game is done correctly. SE should study Blizzard, not WoW.
    Um... I think you may be confused, but Blizzard makes WoW.

    I think Relics and Mythics should become top-tier weapons instead of Empyreans, because Emps are just so easy to make now, when they were already way faster than the other two.

    Anyway, on topic, in terms of Weaponskills I think that many of them need buffs. Particularly the ones we got during the lvl 80 cap. The only useful ones out of that bunch were sanguine blade, aeolian edge, and fell cleave. Arguably Cataclysm, but aeolian edge is better for amber anyway. The rest are just... really bad. I actually think that they might improve on the potency of elemental weaponskills, since they are giving, or rather have talked about giving, DRK an elemental ws boost JA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Um... I think you may be confused, but Blizzard makes WoW.
    That's what I meant, they should study the company, not the game. WoW is boring, but Blizzard does things right as a company. Customer support, game support, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    That's what I meant, they should study the company, not the game. WoW is boring, but Blizzard does things right as a company. Customer support, game support, etc.
    So your argument really has nothing to do about the actual update and WS, but actually is just another gripe about the payment change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    That's what I meant, they should study the company, not the game. WoW is boring, but Blizzard does things right as a company. Customer support, game support, etc.
    Indeed they do. However, SE is no longer a Japanese company run by Japanese senior management that are focused on quality. There's a lot of chinese, european and American influence in SE now. It is a company that has leveraged its reputation towards maximum short term profit. Yes, even in the world of gaming the speculators and share betters are ruining it for us all.

    Square soft was a great company, and Square Enix was fine for the first 4 years of its existance. But then it turned on its fans, a generation of indy youth outside the mainstream and started marketing itself towards a greater audience.

    What SE failed to realize is that there was nothing wrong with the message (their unique games) but in the delivery method (consoles, limited advertizing and an inablity to keep up with modern trends of communication).
    Instead of turning on their fan base and looking elsewhere for greater profits, they could have easily solidified their consumer base as a global phenomenon by nurturing and growing it. That would have cost a bit of money and some good communication campaigns (something the Japanese are HORRIBLE at). Instead, they chose short term profits and replicated the american and current international financial model; leverage everything to the max and try to buck in on it before anyone realizes we're selling them bullshit.

    SE could have gained a world of experience by listening to PR firms like Edelman and Impact Porter Novel, instead they listened to wall street financial firms such as JP morgan and yes, Goldman "hack and sell" sachs.

    Research this stuff and look at just how many SE senior employees have recently returned to the company after a half decade leave from it.
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    No they don't, they nerf every class, every patch, repeatedly. That design mentality sucks, and so does their trash homogeny mentality. You don't know what you're talking about. Buffs, not nerfs. If you like eating nerfs so much, go play LoL or WoW.
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    Last edited by Coldbrand; 08-16-2011 at 02:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordanthos View Post
    no, because relic and mythic is lvl 75 old content. When lvl 75 stuff starts to equal or trump the lvl 90 stuff, this game doesnt know how to do it correctly. And maybe SE should study WoW or LoTrO closely to learn something.
    Of course relics and mythics should be buffed up and as we already know they are doing this.

    Galka empys begin there life at 75 no matter what way you look at it and relics at level 1.
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