Weapon Skill Adjustment

[Economizer]

Elemental weapon skills could do to be a bit less awful, particularly the higher level ones like Leaden Salute or True Flight. Sanguine Blade seems like the perfect model for a good elemental weapon skill. Generally less damage than Vorpal Blade, but it's a different type of damage and comes with a useful additional effect.

Watching a Blue Mage effortlessly break 1k damage outside abyssea, or a Red Mage effortlessly do over 600-700 damage with Aeolian Edge is a bit soulcrushing when Flash Nova doesn't seem to do more then a little over 400 damage, even on stuff like undead or even Dark Elementals. I'm not asking to do numbers like they do in Abyssea with perfectly set atmas, but an increased boost at the low end would be nice, especially since the weapon skill hardly does anything special, and is not multi-target.

[SNK]

Cloudsplitter needs a buff. The fact you have to use Elemental Atmas for it to even put out good numbers while saccing a decent amount of TP Regain Atmas makes it sad.

[Mizuharu]

God I had to skim through a lot of Square-Enix s**t talking just to find posts about weapon skills...

Here's what I'm hoping for with this weapon skill adjustment update.

1) New Weapon Skills for 90~95 (Though I doubt it since it's an adjustment)

2) Enhancing the damage on Relic Weapon Skills (Perhaps making them crit like their Empyrean counterparts. Or the Occ. DMGx2~4 procs on WSs also rather than just JAs/Normal attacks.)

3) Adding jobs onto existing weapon skills (I've seen so many RDMs ask for Red Lotus/Seraph Blade and I have to agree with them. They SHOULD get those WSs naturally. (And PUP on Asuran Fists since we get the 250 required skill by 74 Dx))

[Coldbrand]

Cloudsplitter needs a buff. The fact you have to use Elemental Atmas for it to even put out good numbers while saccing a decent amount of TP Regain Atmas makes it sad.

I think it's basically polearm/axe/dagger/scythe and maybe armageddon (outside aby only) that need some tweaking as far as Empyreans go, but no matter how many constructive posts I'd make for the reps, none of them respond.

It'll suck if ukon/verethragna etc. ruin it for the small minority of emps that are in need of buffs assuming the rest of the relic/mythic buffs are as good as aegis/burtgang were.

[Malacite]

What I'd like to see:

- No nerfs, please. So help me God if SE nerfs any WS...
- BIG buff to elemental WS, especially the lower level ones. It shouldn't take Atma/Primeval Brew to make them even remotely viable.
- Buff some of the weaker/disappointing WS that really need it - such as Camlann's Torment. DRG didn't need a Wheeling Thrust +1. Possibly change Insurgency to a critical-hit WS.
- Give RDM access to the EX Weaponskills natively. At the very least, give RDM Sanguine Blade natively.

[SpankWustler]

Watching a Blue Mage effortlessly break 1k damage outside abyssea, or a Red Mage effortlessly do over 600-700 damage with Aeolian Edge is a bit soulcrushing when Flash Nova doesn't seem to do more then a little over 400 damage, even on stuff like undead or even Dark Elementals. I'm not asking to do numbers like they do in Abyssea with perfectly set atmas, but an increased boost at the low end would be nice, especially since the weapon skill hardly does anything special, and is not multi-target.

Flash Nova VS Aeolian Edge and Sanguine Blade is a really good example. Flash Nova is single target, yet instead of the formula being comparable to that of Sanguine Blade, it's much closer to that of Aeolian Edge.

They're all gained around the same level, so I don't understand the logic. Is Flash really that awesome an additional effect?

Cloudsplitter is even more incomprehensible. Even at 200% TP, it doesn't have a TP modifier on par with Wildfire. At 300%, it's barely higher.

That elemental weapon skills aren't even uniformly awful is what really gets me, because I can't understand the thought that goes into making some more awful than others.

Oh, and note some of my values might be off if the wiki is off. Which would surprise me about as much as feeling a need to poop within the next sixteen days.

[Atomic_Skull]

no, because relic and mythic is lvl 75 old content. When lvl 75 stuff starts to equal or trump the lvl 90 stuff, this game doesnt know how to do it correctly. And maybe SE should study WoW or LoTrO closely to learn something.

Relics and mythics are lvl 90 weapons that take years to upgrade.

[Atomic_Skull]

2) Enhancing the damage on Relic Weapon Skills (Perhaps making them crit like their Empyrean counterparts. Or the Occ. DMGx2~4 procs on WSs also rather than just JAs/Normal attacks.)

Increase the duration and potency of aftermath.
Increase the proc rate of double/triple damage on relics from 5% to 20%

And one of the following:

Change the hidden relic WS damage multiplier from 25% to 25%~75% based on TP

or

Remove hidden relic WS damage multiplier. Change all relic WS to TP=crit% and change them to accurately reflect the # of hits in their animations.

[Coldbrand]

What I'd like to see:

- No nerfs, please. So help me God if SE nerfs any WS...
- BIG buff to elemental WS, especially the lower level ones. It shouldn't take Atma/Primeval Brew to make them even remotely viable.
- Buff some of the weaker/disappointing WS that really need it - such as Camlann's Torment. DRG didn't need a Wheeling Thrust +1. Possibly change Insurgency to a critical-hit WS.
- Give RDM access to the EX Weaponskills natively. At the very least, give RDM Sanguine Blade natively.

Not that the devs respond or care but it's wheeling thrust -1 since it starts at 10% and goes up to 50% ignoring where as wt starts at 50%, pretty messed up, right? Even that wouldn't be enough alone though. They're gonna' ignore the posts about emps, buff mythic/relic then realize in the middle of next year a few empyreans are lagging behind and by christmas time we'll get their first test buffs to see if it'll fix those ws.

[Rearden]

The best thing SE has ever done is not try to balance the game based on people whining their job/ws/abilities/dog sucks in game content that's not applicable to 99% of FFXI.