Lets not forget the infamous 7-brew Rani that occurred on our server ;P

And yesterday I watched a new-to-abyssea LS nearly completely wipe to Carabosse. They all ran in and meleed it to find red trigger, and Cyclonic Turmoil, Torrent, then Aeroga 3 said hello. All of the DD died, leaving the NIN tank, a WHM and a BLM alive. The other problems were they didn't have a dispeller, the DRK and BLM weren't stunning -ga, and their WHM had to rest most of the fight due to the spam (assuming no atmas).

I ended up raising most of them just because it was so heartless to vulture a mob off a new group who was learning. On the other hand, a duo fucked up and wiped behind me (the WHM had no rr), so we ended up getting a free Carabosse anyway.

This is how I see it: If the group messes up and the mob idles (like the duo did) then the mob can't depop. It's ours. XD If the group still has some life in them, even if it's weakened tanking, we wont take it.

Charm doesn't apply to the idling part ;P It's not a wipe, so I wouldn't steal it.

I also don't expect many other people share this consideration with me. And don't give me "It was the group's fault for not having the right jobs/strategy", many of them changed after seeing what the NM was about. ;P