Too much to ask?

[Rosina]

Yes it is to much to ask. Mob holding if taking the mob and kiting it. I would just gone to do something else. When it comes to nm the community always had a bad attitude about it. Like fighting over LL when ppl coulda just formed a party and help each other.

[Zatias]

The soloer could have invited people into their party and put quartermaster on his/herself. It's a little rude in my opinion to pop over people and make them wait while you solo it for 20+ minutes.

A rage timer isn't the solution though, people need to fix their attitudes toward one another ;/

[Runespider]

Rage timers go against the extreme easy mode idea behind Abyssea and besides that they tried rage timers on kings and made them so long that they pretty much did nothing, don't bother hoping for this. Even if they did add them they would be so long they would make no difference.

Just need to be nicer to people when offering help, have alternatives or pop faster than them.

[DebbieGibson]

So funny you guys saying there's no way to get screwed. All the guy has to do is pop ukko's fury then /pcmd leave and he has your mob. If I was soloing something for 30 mins I wouldn't invite anyone either.

[noodles355]

You have too look at it from the other persons point of view. If they accepted your help you could be a jerk, invite them steal their monster kick them from the party take their drops. Yes this does happen in abyssea,

I dont think I've ever had it happen to me. And I team up with people almost at every available oppertunity. I know a few players who I wouldn't put the idea past, but said players are known already for being dicks.
I was trying to 2box Kuthrei today for all 3 drops, an alliance comes along wanting win for it's members. They inv'd me to ally, we killed it together, and I got all the drops I was after. No drama, no stealing, no "we helped, so we want stuff". People think the worst of a lot ofo things, but to be honest you'd be surprised by how much shit like that really doesn't happen.

[Tagrineth]

I end up doing tons of NM team-ups out in the field. But not everyone is so trusting... or trustworthy.

I would support a 30 minute rage timer on most NMs though.

[Tamoa]

Even if the nin in the OP accepted invite and got screwed - so what, it's Audumbla, and chances are he didn't even proc it, and no TH = quite possibly no drops at all.

If I'm out soloing seal nms on nin, I always accept if people ask me to team up. Better for everybody - and I have yet to be screwed out of drops. Even if that did happen, it's not the end of the world, can just drop party.

[Leonlionheart]

Does it make me a bad person to steal the NM when they wipe and then kill it in 15~45 seconds?

[Economizer]

Does it make me a bad person to steal the NM when they wipe and then kill it in 15~45 seconds?

No, but it does make you a bad person if you steal it if they lose claim for some reason.

With the group I run with, we have rules about this. If their entire group dies and stays dead for longer then a set time, we take the mob. We don't take it if it goes white unless they're entire group is dead. Depending on how polite the group was, we'll often invite them anyways. Although it is pretty rude to not accept help with you are duoing a mob without an empyrean weapon to speed it along.

I don't expect others to be so polite, but waiting until the other group at least wipes is good enough to satisfy my definition of not being a player who steals stuff. Players who steal claims just because it went white for a second go just barely above people who steal BCNM loot, scam other players, or make off with LS loot, and will roast in the MMO underworld when they get theirs.

[Leonlionheart]

I only extend the respect if I don't have an issue with the other group.

Like today, we lost Tunga claim for a moment, but didn't wipe, and though the other group had the chance to easily steal it, they didn't claim (even though it was probably because we would still get the KI). After that when they were losing claim we went off to go kill the other bugs.

However, like with most of Asura, I don't see the same respect. Most of the medium-big LS's are full of douche bags (the little ones are too small to matter, and the big ones generally share mutual respect and understanding), and in the case where I have a poor history with them, or they have recently done something to offend, I will show no mercy. I've had people go as far as to try and pull Ironclads to Rani to try and get us to wipe so they can steal it, in which case I often steal their Rani when they inevitably wipe (brewing Rani is hard for 90% of players it seems).