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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    False. More like, with them you can cap haste and 5 hit without crap gear sacrifices.
    No, you literally can't cap haste w/ usu feet without sacrificing +2 legs, therefore losing out on one of the only real advantages SAMs have in terms of haste. Also losing +2 legs would kind of render the STP bonus on Usu feet useless, wouldn't it?

    Also assuming 5hit on Masa, which requires huge haste sacrifices in the first place. lol kikugosaku is like, automatic 5hit, but lol if you're using that and playing SAM seriously.
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    Last edited by Leonlionheart; 08-14-2011 at 07:08 AM.

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    Id rather them make level 99's ultimate gear be magian trials were you have to collect a certain number of items from salvage/znm/einherjar/etc to combine them. making salvage +1 gear will be pointless, we know its going to suck, although, for things like usukane, you only need to improve each piece but ~2-3% in order to beat full tantra+2, but for other jobs it won't be the case.
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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    at 75: "How can they make something better than Byakko's Haidate?"
    at 80: "How can they make something better than Relics?"
    at 85: "How can they make something better than AF3+2 head for TP?"
    at 90: "How can they make something better than AF3+2?"

    inb4 Ares body has attack+40 and ares mask has haste+9%
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    Skadi was/is still one of/THE best solo SATA head piece. and one of the best (other being Maat's cap) solo TA pieces.
    Skadi body is/was the best dancing edge piece.
    Skadi hands still are very good physical ranged WS hands.
    Skadi feet still have movement+.
    Skadi legs were the best Thf and Cor TP pants at 75. Add some more haste to them and they probably would jump up there again.

    I agree they need buffs, but I disagree with skadi being terribad. Especially as 2 pieces are still the best for certain uses (however situational they are).
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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Skadi was/is still one of/THE best solo SATA head piece. and one of the best (other being Maat's cap) solo TA pieces.
    Skadi body is/was the best dancing edge piece.
    Skadi hands still are very good physical ranged WS hands.
    Skadi feet still have movement+.
    Skadi legs were the best Thf and Cor TP pants at 75. Add some more haste to them and they probably would jump up there again.

    I agree they need buffs, but I disagree with skadi being terribad. Especially as 2 pieces are still the best for certain uses (however situational they are).
    Skadi had its place, but it didn't hold a candle to some of the others.

    Homam legs say hi to THF though.
    Skadi hands are good if you suck at gearing RNG, I guess. Maybe, MAYBE, for Sidewinder/Refulgent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Honestly for most things I can't see any piece of gear that would be better than the job-specific AF3.
    That "for the most things" of yours makes it hard to understand the full extent of your statement.
    I guess I agree, if I got it right?

    It has to be said though that there are a few pieces that STILL are pretty good/decent even with their level 75 stats. Were SE to increase such stats and maybe even add new ones, such pieces would become top-edge again.

    Take Usukane Hizayoroi, it's no augmented Shura+1 or Hachiryu, but it's still ok for WSing, for PUP it's probably the best option for WS. Same could be said for body, and probably for feet. Sure, there are better options but they're still okaysh and for some jobs it's actually the best.
    Think about refresh +2/+3 on a Marduk's Body with furtherly enhanced Fast Cast and, say, +16 to the stats, and maybe more MP too, wouldn't that be okayish? For example I still use my Marduk's Body as an Idle body for SMN (when no avatar is out) or BRD.

    If I recall a couple of Morrigan pieces are still pretty nice for BLU, etc etc. and Skadi feet are the only mov speed +12 perma option for BSt if I recall. There can be many examples.
    All in all an update to Salvo gear would be welcome.
    Nobody demands for it to be so good that everybody will want to fulltime it, it's just a matter of giving people more situational options, imho.

    Also, I think they should update Salvo gear so that DNC and SCH can equip it.
    SCH could go for Morri/Marduk, and DNC could go for Usu/Skadi? Dunno...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    No, you literally can't cap haste w/ usu feet without sacrificing +2 legs, therefore losing out on one of the only real advantages SAMs have in terms of haste. Also losing +2 legs would kind of render the STP bonus on Usu feet useless, wouldn't it?

    Also assuming 5hit on Masa, which requires huge haste sacrifices in the first place. lol kikugosaku is like, automatic 5hit, but lol if you're using that and playing SAM seriously.
    No you're right, but keep trashing around the forums anyway because this is the first time you've been wrong.
    http://www.ffxiah.com/members/item-sets/?id=227005

    Capped haste (assuming hasso) 20.3 TP/hit through melee phase.

    Technically, Goading belt (assuming hasso) can actually be swapped in and still hit the haste cap/right below it for 20.8 TP/hit through melee phase.
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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Your link is broken.

    However capping haste in gear through the bonus on legs w/ hasso isn't really capping haste in gear, if my assumptions about the set is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helel View Post

    Skadi hands are still good for RNG.
    Not compared to Sylvan Glovettes +2 they aren't.
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    legs bonus is not gear haste, saying you cap haste because hasso bonus is wrong unless you have marches and samba (cap total haste without caping gear)
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