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    Player chubrocka's Avatar
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    With all the changes, do you think SE is trying to end us/this

    I myself think that SE is trying to End the game. All the changes to make it an easy play and fast leveling. The lack of any real questing add ons. I think most of us long time players and the longtime players who stopped after the long wait for something new from 75 cap would agree. If SE wanted to keep this going they would, we would have long, hard time taking content. We wouldnt have had the last massive server merge because people stopped playing from lack of new content. Think about it. How do you shut it down and still keep a loyal player base. Well i can think its the way there doing it now. Lack of content only made enough people leave to condence servers. Us die hards still keep going. Years later we get new content that makes the game So easy to get everything maxed and all older content complete. When we finally finish a game that i didnt think was possible we leave. It also makes for any newer palyers to lose interest in a LOT shorter time. Seeing people with every job at level 90 and them only starting 6 month or less ago is silly in any MMO.

    Im wondering your thoughts?

    Way to go SE.

    This is not a thread about payment systems, please keep it out.
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    Last edited by chubrocka; 08-17-2011 at 01:15 AM.
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    I'm guessing they made lvling so easy because of all the noobs complaining that it took too long to level. These noobs were the ones that lvled to 20 then quit. SE wants them to stay for more profit.

    Then again, with all the Click&Buy complaints, maybe they really are trying to kill the longevity of the game.
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    I'm pretty sure if they wanted the game to end they'd just turn the servers off.

    The new payment system is easy. To me it's like having our noob filters back (back in the day when stuff like the dunes, SJ quest etc would 'filter' out some of the bad players). If you can't figure out how to use a credit or debit card to buy crysta, you probably can't figure out all the easy to understand things in game either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    I'm pretty sure if they wanted the game to end they'd just turn the servers off.

    The new payment system is easy. To me it's like having our noob filters back (back in the day when stuff like the dunes, SJ quest etc would 'filter' out some of the bad players). If you can't figure out how to use a credit or debit card to buy crysta, you probably can't figure out all the easy to understand things in game either.
    This is completely asinine. Did you bother to turn your brain on when posting this?

    The billing change has mucked things up for individuals who have lived in countries that crysta isn't sold in. Nothing like playing and paying for years only for SE to change the rules simply to streamline their own systems for the revival tour of FFXIV.

    Who needs money from regions of the world that haven't accepted virtual currency anyway.

    Now if you can't buy crysta off the bat, you're forced into an unholy alliance with Click and Buy. Bad enough you could be hit with conversion fees but many banks see this company has shady enough to be put on a blacklist whenever charges are made to them.

    Good to know FFXI is on the same level as online gambling though.

    Worse, the JP base has no such changes and luxuries that the rest of the world doesn't get. You do however get to overpay SE, deal with a 2nd rate company or quit the game though.

    But who am I kidding, this is all a strategem to weed out the noobs who can't pay their bills because SE has made this process so easy that only a complete idiot would be unable to give this company their money every month.
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    Player chubrocka's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    This is completely asinine. Did you bother to turn your brain on when posting this?

    The billing change has mucked things up for individuals who have lived in countries that crysta isn't sold in. Nothing like playing and paying for years only for SE to change the rules simply to streamline their own systems for the revival tour of FFXIV.

    Who needs money from regions of the world that haven't accepted virtual currency anyway.

    Now if you can't buy crysta off the bat, you're forced into an unholy alliance with Click and Buy. Bad enough you could be hit with conversion fees but many banks see this company has shady enough to be put on a blacklist whenever charges are made to them.

    Good to know FFXI is on the same level as online gambling though.

    Worse, the JP base has no such changes and luxuries that the rest of the world doesn't get. You do however get to overpay SE, deal with a 2nd rate company or quit the game though.

    But who am I kidding, this is all a strategem to weed out the noobs who can't pay their bills because SE has made this process so easy that only a complete idiot would be unable to give this company their money every month.
    This thread sint about payments please, ther are about 50 that are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chubrocka View Post
    This thread sint about payments please, ther are about 50 that are.
    Just for you, I'll comment on the OP. The fact is that SE is winding down XI.

    All of the concessions made in Abyssea were to keep the dwindling base happy as XIV eventually ascended to it's freshly minted spot as flagship SE online title.

    What better way to keep us all happy than to turn a harsh and barren desert into an lively oasis of treasure? This game before Abyssea sported the wonderful world of VNMs and the most poorly designed HNM ever brought forth on Vana'diel - Yilbegan.

    Things were terrible in FFXI. So bad in fact, SE qualified an NM that drops Darksteel Ingots and Ebony Logs as the centerpiece of a version update.

    The plan seemed to be exciting players old and new in XI via Abyssea to then move onto XIV as faith was restored in the company. You could easily "finish up" XI and be content enough to move on to greener pastures.... except the greener pasture turned out to be a no-mans land.

    When XIV fell through, the plan backfired. You had individuals once again clinging to XI because the new game failed except SE doesn't seem to have any intention of giving XI any new expansions due to PS2 limitations and the fact that money is best spent on a new game rather than a nearly decade-old one.

    So now we sit in limbo. We know what SE has planned for a good while out and no expansions are in the works. This is either a surprise designed to excite individuals are a subtle way of saying that XI is done in terms of world expansion and new places to explore.

    With how long it took to hammer out WOTG and how devoid of content the 3 side packs were, it's not exactly shocking to have little faith that no further expansions are being designed.
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    Player chubrocka's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    Just for you, I'll comment on the OP. The fact is that SE is winding down XI.

    All of the concessions made in Abyssea were to keep the dwindling base happy as XIV eventually ascended to it's freshly minted spot as flagship SE online title.

    What better way to keep us all happy than to turn a harsh and barren desert into an lively oasis of treasure? This game before Abyssea sported the wonderful world of VNMs and the most poorly designed HNM ever brought forth on Vana'diel - Yilbegan.

    Things were terrible in FFXI. So bad in fact, SE qualified an NM that drops Darksteel Ingots and Ebony Logs as the centerpiece of a version update.

    The plan seemed to be exciting players old and new in XI via Abyssea to then move onto XIV as faith was restored in the company. You could easily "finish up" XI and be content enough to move on to greener pastures.... except the greener pasture turned out to be a no-mans land.

    When XIV fell through, the plan backfired. You had individuals once again clinging to XI because the new game failed except SE doesn't seem to have any intention of giving XI any new expansions due to PS2 limitations and the fact that money is best spent on a new game rather than a nearly decade-old one.

    So now we sit in limbo. We know what SE has planned for a good while out and no expansions are in the works. This is either a surprise designed to excite individuals are a subtle way of saying that XI is done in terms of world expansion and new places to explore.

    With how long it took to hammer out WOTG and how devoid of content the 3 side packs were, it's not exactly shocking to have little faith that no further expansions are being designed.
    I agree with you. Im just not likeing the fact that im gonna have to start playing on a PC. for FFXIV. Ive enjoyed the 360 now so much, Playing on my big ass screen and its nice graphics. I guess if i had the option to play 14 on a console................ Im gonna have to conform lol.

    Anyone know if and when there will be a console release?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    I'm pretty sure if they wanted the game to end they'd just turn the servers off.
    They wouldn't because they want us all to switch to FFXIV.
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    Its more likely that their mom's wont give them the credit card again/on a monthly basis to buy crysta. Personally i grow very tired of these 'pity me' threads.

    Yes SE hates you. and just you. The rest of us are okay.
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