Good point, they weren't. Did they need to have hate to count for kills? Or even do the killshot?
The first was an AFK person to leech kills, which I didn't mind, the second was my WHM mule. It may have gotten hate on some mobs occasionally (when hasting), but not much from even that, since most spells landed after the mob died. If I get into that situation again, I'll split up the melees to different parties, or at least have the WHM cast Dia (if they're fast enough).
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FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers
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