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    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Well.. the samples are too small to say definitively but if the rates hold up when the samples are bigger the only thing I could think of is that TH works in tiers... And the tiers would be your 3rd or 4th reroll. I guess that would kinda make sense for SE. We would see no increased drop rate on standard trash mobs because they would die before TH procs, but anything that took a little while to kill would see the benefits. From your numbers I would say 1 tier would be at TH7 but it's extremely early in the sample to make that kind of assumption. I'm actually excited to see more numbers now.
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    I'll update WAR and THF kill count every 200 kills. Slow killing is kind of murder on the attention span so I might stop at 500 for that. It's not going to be 1,000 or 10,000 but 500 kills is still a moderate kill count to get a idea of probable drop rates with procs in effect on a grand scale. Also, every time I farm I plan to at least leave with 1 diorite for Ulli kill, and the target kill count will be 50 per trip. So I will still be dropping diorites. They seem plentiful enough anyway.

    I'm not a fan of wiki numbers. Sometimes what I see on there and what I see in game are far different. I prefer to test for as long as possible to cut down on those skewed numbers. Like for example I'm 1/1 for tav bell on my last four trips to farm it for people. Now it might be possible that I could go down there and go 4/4 in a row but really, that's going to be damn improbable. I want to avoid the "luck" factor with this testing as much as possible.

    I still expect to see raxa drop rate rise at least some but it's probably going to be far less than my presumption of 10%. Maybe it's still early but after 320 total kills and 0 raxa with TH2-10, I'm pretty damn sure that 10% guess is way off and I was catching some luck before on multiple trips.
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    my 2010 kills showed 2% drop rate for raxa lol.
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    Wonder if there's any testing on TH affecting key item drops. Because I'm getting a lot of Cara's KIs without proccing red. Appear to be getting KIs without red proc much more often on Thf/Nin (TH6-8 usually) than on War/Sam.
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    I'm pretty sure that killshot matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    I'm pretty sure that killshot matters.
    Dunno, I've had double crests in pool on Faeries in La Thiene, and I always killshot on Thf because trying to azure them on whm/sch is a bloody pain.
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    I like thinking about it like this:
    TH1 = Regular items.
    TH2 = Rare items.
    TH3 = Ex items (like seals in Abyssea)

    And then when you get an upgrade it just boosts those or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleeyes View Post
    I like thinking about it like this:
    TH1 = Regular items.
    TH2 = Rare items.
    TH3 = Ex items (like seals in Abyssea)

    And then when you get an upgrade it just boosts those or something.
    Doesn't work like that. There is a noticable drop rate increase between TH1 and 2 on all items.
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    This whole business of pumping up the TH placebo to higher numbers (that don't appear to actually do anything) reminds me of a great scene in one of my favorite movies - "This is Spinal Tap".

    I guess the devs just wanted to turn up TH to eleven.
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    Interesting tidbit tonight: I moved to Ulli's area to kill statues. Out of 50 kills, 5 raxa dropped. Mythril ore seemed to take a steep dive in drop rate with only 10 dropping. Shards were about normal with 5. Diorite 3(which is about normal for this spot imo, it's where I did most of my farming before but I chose the other area for more kills and no downtime waiting for repops for the purpose of this testing) Ulli is the last spot I know for certain that raxa were dropping so I moved there.

    If these drop rates hold up then I'm not real sure what to do. It gives me a headache just considering that the two spots for them have different rates but for now I'm going to hang around Ulli's area and see what I get out of raxa drops. Old spot 0/370, new spot 5/50.
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