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    Does your grouping thing maintain the exact order things dropped in? I've noticed that things always drop their items in the same order (if the slot fills). If that's the case, then you can limit it down to:
    Slot 1: Diorite
    Slot 2: Mythril Ore
    Slot 3: Golem shard
    Slot 4: Beastman/Kindred Seal
    Slot 5: Party 1 Light Crystal
    Slot 6: Party 2 Light Crystal
    Slot 7: Party 3 Light Crystal
    Slot 8: Raxa (could also reversed with slot 7)

    For reference, and a reason why I think "first two slots" may not be correct, Jailers have:
    Slot 1: Virtue
    Slot 2: OAT weapon
    Slot 3: Torque

    So if it was just "First two" it wouldn't affect the torques. Admittedly, I don't have any kind of a parse proving that TH affects torques, but it just seems unlikely that it doesn't.
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    Did you that possible grouping out of my post? Idk if the drop order was preserved. Could have changed if the chat bugged i guess, so i'm not sure.

    One curiosity: although i didn't get both beast and kindred dropping, seems like they are reserved in different slots. Beastmen being before mythril ore and kindred before the light crystals.
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    That's true. I'd always assumed they were in the same slot, but I guess there's no reason to assume that really. Also, if you were killing multiple Aura Statues with multiple parties (potentially up to 3?) the order could be a little messed up if you killed two at the same time.
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    Half way done. Current numbers @50 kills:

    9 diorite, 28 mythril ore, surprisingly I'm still sitting on 0 raxa.. , 7 golem shards

    Diorites


    TH6 0
    TH7 6
    TH8 1
    TH9 2
    TH10 0

    Started to keep count of procs alittle late, may kill extras to reach 100 for comparison.. undecided, but would need 20 extra kills:

    Kill count
    TH6 4
    TH7 15
    TH8 8
    TH9 2
    Th10 1

    What I would like to do is get a 100 count for each TH effect, just to see the numbers. That's gonna take a few days though...
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    Last edited by Vold; 08-31-2011 at 02:20 AM.


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    KParser doesn't retain the order that items drop. Items are stored in the database in the order they're encountered and not revised beyond that. So even if it dropped in your theoretical order, Byrth, if you got a mythril ore the first kill, then a diorite and mythril ore the second kill, the order in the database would be 1. mythril ore, 2. diorite.

    As for the groupings, those are only sorted by number of drops, and then I think the items list is alphabetized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphine View Post
    I have a 249 kill TH2+2 parse here. It's an oldie, so probably not that useful considering the possible drop rate changes.
    What TH was on? And did you toss/use Diorites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laphine View Post
    Did you that possible grouping out of my post? Idk if the drop order was preserved. Could have changed if the chat bugged i guess, so i'm not sure.
    From what I can tell, chatlog maintains drop order even among extreme lag. Some things seem to be chronologically inseperable, others not. AoE damage, for one, is not, neither are additional effects. Critical hit notices and their corresponding damage message, as well as used abilities are, as far as I can tell. I'll need to add that to my parser as well, could determine possible groupings algorithmically.
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    How sure are we with the whole 1 crest every 5 min deal? Is that limited to everyone in PT or just per person? because I'm seeing 2 kindred's crest in my pool right now.
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    You can get one seal/crest every 5 minutes per party in your alliance. You can get one crystal every kill per party member with Signet.
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    that was an old parse as i said (back from jan 2010). Was implying that there was no new level cap. And diorite seemed to be much rarer as well. Anyway, it was only one party with 3 ppl with a very bad luck too lol.
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    Last edited by Laphine; 08-31-2011 at 03:52 AM.

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    damn internet...
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    Last edited by Laphine; 08-31-2011 at 03:53 AM.

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