Treasure Hunter Testing

[noodles355]

Took advantage of everyone EXPing and 2boxed 8 CC pops (2 at a time). Now up to 9/15 on 2nd lantern. 24/50 overall. Again just TH2.

[Delvish]

This sounds like a job for the TH testing crew! Raxias recently posted in the forums about geodes and if TH affects the drop rate. Fairly simple test I think, just need 100 mob sample, and a 0 TH control. I suspect geodes to fall in the same loot pool as seals and crests, but could be wrong.

[Byrth]

We will probably get something about this in a day or two, but here's a link to an ffxiah translation of something written on the JP official forums.

Apparently it mostly says that TH10 is better than TH9.

I think there might actually be more to this than the post indicates. Perhaps TH10 is the next tier of TH, while TH9 is still the same potency as TH2?

[Zirael]

From what I see, all they say is: we killed 500 mobs with TH9 and 500 with TH10 and TH10 was better, whilst in both cases drop rates were slightly higher than expected.
Where's my sample distribution data, where are SD numbers, %RSD numbers, confidence levels?
In 4 hours Camate is going to come here and say TH10>TH9. And I ask: by how much? 1% difference with 95% confidence?
Bananas are more yellow than lemons - wow, thanks for the info!

Edit: To Camate (and whoever did the testing for us), I know you are linguist, not mathematician, but we are talking science here. As soon as you come here and make a claim based on empirical data, the good scientific practice is to backup your claim with your methodology (this part you've kinda done) and data/sample distribution. Until this can be independently reviewed and verified (test repeatability), your claim remains a proposed thesis. The guys in this thread (and other forums) are serious about testing this, show them your data.

[Camate]

Our Community Team counterpart over in Japan, Mocchi, with the aid of the QA team, decided it was time to do his own kind of Myth Busters, FFXI style to determine if the myth about the drop rate of Treasure Hunter 10 being worse than Treasure Hunter 9 was true or not.

They headed out to Mount Zhayolm to slay 1000 Sulphuric Jagils. 500 with Treasure Hunter 9 and an additional 500 with Treasure Hunter 10.

So was it true…or is this just another myth that got busted?

It is NOT true!

1. Is the Treasure Hunter effect really getting stronger like it should?
When the Treasure Hunter effect increased, we checked not only the message displayed, but the actual values that were originally set and found that it was increasing like it should.

2. TH9 vs. TH10
Since it would take a ridiculous amount of time to test this by manually increasing the Treasure Hunter effect to 9 or 10 via attacks and what not, we prepared special equipment that gave us Treasure Hunter+9 and Treasure Hunter+10 and tested it on MNK/WHM, removing all the other equipment. As a result of our testing, we determined that we got more Pugil Scales with Treasure Hunter 10.



※This is a screenshot from actual testing.



While we don’t want to be the destroyers of anyone’s dreams, let us know if there are any other FFXI myths you would like busted

[Kalilla]

Camate, the super speedy translator <3

[MarkovChain]

2. TH9 vs. TH10
Since it would take a ridiculous amount of time to test this by manually increasing the Treasure Hunter effect to 9 or 10 via attacks and what not

Which basically means you guys are admitting that putting more than TH3 on a mob is useless, which basically means TH+ gear is useless. Give me a reason to bring a thf. (at least you admit TH9+ is useless, so why even implement it, make it cap at TH10).

[Arcon]

Our Community Team counterpart over in Japan, Mocchi, with the aid of the QA team, decided it was time to do his own kind of Myth Busters, FFXI style to determine if the myth about the drop rate of Treasure Hunter 10 being worse than Treasure Hunter 9 was true or not.

That was a myth?

While we don’t want to be the destroyers of anyone’s dreams, let us know if there are any other FFXI myths you would like busted

TH itself is the biggest myth in FFXI present, past and foreseeable future. Clear that up please.

Edit:

Which basically means you guys are admitting that putting more than TH3 on a mob is useless, which basically means TH+ gear is useless. Give me a reason to bring a thf. (at leats you admit TH9+ is useless, so why implement it).

Wrong inference. They didn't imply that at all. THF has free TH6 at least, 0 time, 0 effort. And do not ask if TH6 is really better than TH3, otherwise they'll waste more time testing useless stuff.

(Also, subbed you only get TH2, not TH3. If you say that TH3 is useful, you just gave yourself a reason to bring a THF.)

[Mizuharu]

I have something I'd liked tested that could be considered a myth. Does moon phase play any role in anything? People say that it's a fact that it helps with synths and fishing (which I can see since the moon phase does affect the tides in the real world,) but drop rates and treasures in a chest? And augments on armor from Field Parchments/Dominion Notes? >_>

(people will call it useless, but I'm just going to leave this question here.)

[Phafi]

Since it would take a ridiculous amount of time to test this by manually increasing the Treasure Hunter effect to 9 or 10 via attacks and what not, we prepared special equipment that gave us Treasure Hunter+9 and Treasure Hunter+10 and tested it on MNK/WHM, removing all the other equipment. As a result of our testing, we determined that we got more Pugil Scales with Treasure Hunter 10.


While we don’t want to be the destroyers of anyone’s dreams, let us know if there are any other FFXI myths you would like busted

I see what you did there.