So, Fafnir

[Tagrineth]

My linkshell has now pooled resources for a few KS99 Wyrm -> Fafnir runs, and out of the runs we've done, we have gone

2/17 on Wyrm Beard
0/17 on Speed Belt

followed by

3/17 on N.head
1/17 on Nidhogg (no Beard)
0/17 on Ridill

and all the one Nidhogg dropped was a.body.

So our collective haul for 1,700 Kindred's Seals (even worse if you add on the other three KS->Fafnirs I've personally done, so technically you can consider this out of 2,000 Kindred's Seals) is 3 N.Heads, an A.body, and two Wyrm Beards.

It's rather disheartening to see that even, what, 7 year? old content is still thoroughly screwed up to obtain, even with Abyssea's dev team at the helm of this update, and that an old trophy piece that lost its "best weapon" status when the cap hit 80 has gone from being difficult to insane to obtain... very much not worth the seals.

I know this topic's been done many times before, but really SE, are you guys listening at all? This is simply too much. There's rarity, and then there's "Lol congrats on wasting your seals"... considering the time investment the game strictly enforces on obtaining seals at all, let alone in quantity, this is far beyond draconian.


edit, addendum: Every kill was with at least TH9, many with TH10. TH levels that were beyond unreachable before, and yet the drop rates are STILL lower than before?

[Runespider]

Don't do it then? Or do einherjar, as you say though it's outdated content

[Tagrineth]

Well, we're trying to get people in our LS Beards mainly. We were just hoping to, you know, get something other than complete trash in the process, but it seems that's all you can realistically hope for at this point - trash and more trash.

The difficulty of obtaining black belt would be so much more palatable if you could at least get some cool filler/trophy pieces in the process of pissing your seals into the wind. At this point it's basically a total crapshoot - and out of the three, this is the one with the best loot pool. :\

[Leonlionheart]

Considering E body is currently the best TP piece for WAR, I'm quite displeased about the drop rate of Nidhogg pops.

I don't mind that the Faf's that I've done have dropped complete crap (Only gotten A hands, which is a Genbu drop). I don't care. N Head sucks anyway when you can use Twilight Helm. But the fact that the chances to get E body from HNM is like 3% per NINETY NINE KS (which through extension would be 297 of any other type of seal), that very much so bothers me since I would like to try Behemoth too.

"QQ GO DO ODIN" I would, but all the Einherjar groups I've been with have been filled with idealistic gimps. Not to mention the only thing anyone wants is E body, considering it's the only useful thing from Einherjar unless your building Mythics (with the few situational exceptions like Valhalla Helm), or simply making tatters.

In the end I'm going to end up buying E body ABJ for ~10mil and then burn another 25mil for Cursed Hauberk -1. Just to make that much gil is like 20 days of work. Not a huge deal, but I would like to be able to do other things than farm until the 95 cap comes out and allllllllll that effort goes to complete waste.

[Xellith]

In the end I'm going to end up buying E body ABJ for ~10mil and then burn another 25mil for Cursed Hauberk -1. Just to make that much gil is like 20 days of work. Not a huge deal, but I would like to be able to do other things than farm until the 95 cap comes out and allllllllll that effort goes to complete waste.

you farming the baby jesus or something?

[Leonlionheart]

you farming the baby jesus or something?

35mil would be more like 12 days, about 8 hours per day but...

Really not enjoyable when icefilms is down...

[Vold]

I'm sure the devs are banking on us trading in kindred crests for kindred seals to make everything even out in the end. I like how they lower BB drop rates or outright take them away, and don't raise the rates on the other drops for a restrictive KSNM > Force pop system, but implement a lol 3 for 1 exchange rate which is a punishment system for not targeting mobs specifically to farm seals/crests and could have gotten away with just one option - kindred crest in exchange for kindred seals. We can thank everyone who wanted these HNM handed to us on a silver platter. They got what they wanted except now you better have the best luck ever or no drops at all for you after your seals run dry.

Good going. Things were more accessible than ever since all the botter LSs left for Abyssea but nope, it wasn't enough. I blame myself and others like me. We weren't vocal enough to provide counter arguments before the deed was set in stone. We should have made our own threads instead of relying on SE to spot our comments in a haystack. Comments that made sense. Botting was dead and everyone that was blocked from them for 8 years could finally farm them for whatever worth they had left. A few dozen or so people doomed the entire playerbase to this KSNM system. But oh well. What's done is done. KSNM ruins a good thing yet again. What else is new? I'm actually kind of surprised they even touched the HNM. Like leave them as is but move the BB drops to KSNM. Ya know, they could have just done that. Oh, wait. They did do that. Why did they make this change again? I don't get it. Abyssea did what they couldn't: Fix HNM. So naturally they move the system to force pop but require you to go through the KSNM versions first. Yep. After 8 years and few people still caring to kill them but never could til now.

[Tsuneo]

Considering E body is currently the best TP piece for WAR, I'm quite displeased about the drop rate of Nidhogg pops.

Radiant Mail paired with Fazheluo Helm +1 should beat tiara/armadaberk, but considering the rarity of those items you would probably get Armada Hauberk easier.

[Tamoa]

Radiant Mail paired with Fazheluo Helm +1 should beat tiara/armadaberk, but considering the rarity of those items you would probably get Armada Hauberk easier.

Won't that kill a 6-hit build unless you swap to something like Tactical Mantle (ewww)? Assuming you are talking about Fazheluo Radiant Mail where the sTP +6 is the sphere effect, i.e. it doesn't affect the wearer.

[Tsuneo]

Won't that kill a 6-hit build unless you swap to something like Tactical Mantle (ewww)? Assuming you are talking about Fazheluo Radiant Mail where the sTP +6 is the sphere effect, i.e. it doesn't affect the wearer.

Moonshade Earring with regain will maintain 6-hit.