Voidwatch Drop Rates/Loot Distribution

[Runespider]

I will be quitting FFXI if voidwatch stays how it is and it's all the future content it, drops from VW might as well not exist because they are so rare and random. I pretend they aren't even in the game tbh.

I will not play a MMO with such a horribly designed loot system, I would rather quit.

I did serious endgame before Abyssea, drops that took literally years to obtain. 2+ years to finish morrigan body, far longer for all my king drops. At the time this was acceptable to the kind of players that did serious endgame, but now with Abyssea they made endgame open to everyone and everyone will expect to have the same access that was never there before, they just are not going to accept drop rates of the past anymore I think lol Hell even the hardcore won't like going back to the old ways.

So yeah, I think they are trying to make FFXI more long-term again, or someone else is back in charge of the game and they think they can just time warp back to how they used to keep people playing long-term with very little content. It just ain't gonna fly.

With MMO's they either need to add quite regular mass amounts of content with decent drop rates (abyssea) or add far cheaper content less frequently with really amazing drops that are very rare or difficult to obtain. (voidwatch stage 2).

Given they are not going to be adding mass amounts of regular content like they did with Abyssea from now on I think they will go with the very very rare drop system, the whole point of which is that you may never get the drop you want..or that it takes forever.

People are just used to being able to fully gear a job in 1-3 weeks. While in the past being full geared and top tier would take 3-4++ years.

[Tagrineth]

To me the only bad thing about Voidwatch's drops is that, like, if your dedicated WHM gets Fazheluo Radiant Mail...

[Rearden]

One, if you have an LS maybe I'm old school but doing stuff with others just seems eh, wrong? Get a new LS? etc?

Two, I can still sell people gear from a points system, in fact I could probably sell it a whole lot easier. Being able to sell gear is an illegitimate excuse for not being able to put items in the pool. Guess what, Chinese RMT aren't going to be doing Voidwatch, aren't going to be beating Voidwatch, aren't relevant to Voidwatch. The event itself is just a tad harder than bot claiming Faust and fishing Angel skins.

The current system sucks, it offers no incentive to do it without the ability to put the Faz Mail my WHM mule has into the loot pool. If it were a point system, okay, but you guys are asking for a deal with the devil in that system. SE is going to make it just as ridiculous an amount of points as time it takes to randomly obtain the item. People would be a hell of a lot more interested in this event if they knew all of their mules wouldn't get items without even trading cells.

[Runespider]

Two, I can still sell people gear from a points system, in fact I could probably sell it a whole lot easier. Being able to sell gear is an illegitimate excuse for not being able to put items in the pool. Guess what, Chinese RMT aren't going to be doing Voidwatch, aren't going to be beating Voidwatch, aren't relevant to Voidwatch. The event itself is just a tad harder than bot claiming Faust and fishing Angel skins.

You see RMT in it's most basic form, chinese sweatshop workers. Just FYI RMT sold the strongest HNM drops, drops from every event and now sell aby drops. In the past the RMT were teh best/elite players in the biggest best botting HNMLS, now they are normal players with the resources to get the drops to sell to people.

RMT = people that sell gil, not dumbass chinese sweatshops grinders.

So yeah the drops will be sold for rmt purposes if the demand is there.

[Rearden]

Might be why I specified Chinese RMT

[Runespider]

Might be why I specified Chinese RMT

What does their nationality have to do with the point you were making? No matter how hard the content they will be sold for RMT if demand is there and teh drop system favors selling to others.

[Economizer]

To me the only bad thing about Voidwatch's drops is that, like, if your dedicated WHM gets Fazheluo Radiant Mail...

Well, the obvious solution is to put White Mage on that gear.

Even more obviously, these drops exist for two reasons:
1) To punish people who bring mules to events.
2) To gear up mannequins.

[Rearden]

Regardless of whether these items are sold or not, it generally takes a linkshell to defeat them, the linkshell will take those items first, at current drop rates those items won't reach a point where everyone that needs it has one and they begin to be sold until the following tier of Voidwatch comes out.

A basement of Chinese RMT or an apartment of fat dudes in Tennessee aren't farming VW for profit.

It has to do with the point because SE is far more concerned about their friends across the ocean than they are with Joe Beer.

[Zhronne]

assault point system is the answer.

It's too late... they can't re-do Voidwatch looting system from scratch, can they? All we can reasonably ask for is small tweaks.

The "currency" system you suggested is really nice though. Works really fine in other games, really really fine, up to the point it makes me wonder why FFXI hasn't made more use of it. As far as I know you can use it only with Assaults, Einherjar... oh and if you want to include them I guess Conquest Points/Imperial Standing/Allied Notes too, I suppose.

[Quetzacoatl]

Going for the gear is all fine and dandy, but even those chest pieces are complete garbage anyways. Nothing in Voidwatch can replace Aby gear yet at phase 1, so why are you even worried about the drops to begin with. Nothing in it is game breaking in any way. I do it because i like how fricken hard it is, and i find myself getting the gear randomly when im least expecting it.

This, so much. Who cares about voidwatch when the drops suck to begin with? :|

Square Enix should really provide better ideas for gear as an incentive to participate in phase 1 of voidwatch, if we want to see more action from it. Not even my LS wants to do it because of how disappointing the selection of gear from it is. Not to mention, yeah, drop rates are abysmal to begin with.