Voidwatch Drop Rates/Loot Distribution

[ThaiChi]

Since the Devs have already shot down the idea of changing the loot system as stated in that previous thread, I'll address the idea of wanting VW to be more like assaults. Why in the world would I want to do more assaults? Not only has it been done, but the whole idea was to introduce NEW content, not rehashed content that would take you weeks of grinding points to do.

It is all side grade at best. Even the bard hard is just for people without g horn.

Last I checked Ghorn hasn't reached Kannagi status. There's a reason why a lot of the gear that is sellable on the AH is going for upwards of a mil. Pipilaka Belt, Rancor Collar, Accursed Belt (why?!) are all rare drops that people want. Before it was adjusted, the craft items for the non r/ex versions of the body and the helms sold for a lot. Now they're dirt cheap, but the bodies are still selling for a lot. That's all great for the people are rolling in gil and don't want to put in the work for a sparkly body, but for those of us who actually are doing the content SE wants us to do, its a pretty huge chicken obstruction not getting any rewards or getting any kind of control of the rewards.

Who cares if people think they're sidegrades, it was put in the game to be desired and worked towards, its introducing a new stat that is party friendly, and lets face it, they actually are great pieces of gear for the body.

[Dfoley]

Who cares if people think they're sidegrades, it was put in the game to be desired and worked towards, its introducing a new stat that is party friendly, and lets face it, they actually are great pieces of gear for the body.

That is the problem...if was put in the game to be desired...and it isn't desired, then its through fault of the developers.

The fact there are no lines or congestion for VW tells you the gear isn't desired. There is way to much work for little to no reward. Even less reward when you consider that your looking at 80+ kills without the desired item while someones bard alt gets it 3 times in a row.

VW is utter trash at the moment, and until there are decent (read: better then abyssea for the work involved) upgrades, no one is gonna bust butt to get some of that trash. I wanted the deluxe animator cause SE constantly f's pups over with our range slot and 4 more dex seemed nice. That turtle gave me the big F U and guess what, I wont miss not having that 4 dex. I wasted enough of my friends time trying it.


Edit:
Sorry to prove a point
here is the pup/monk useable VW t4 bp

PUP
DEF:59
DEX+10
Accuracy+20
Attack+20
Haste+3%
Reduces "Overload" rate
Set: Attack occ. varies with automaton's HP

mnk
DEF:64
STR+12
VIT+12
Accuracy+15
Attack+15
Augments "Impetus"
Enhances "Martial Arts" effect
Set: Augments "Kick Attacks"


here is the +2 cirque bp
DEF:57
Accuracy+17
Ranged Accuracy+17
Sword skill +7
Katana skill +7
Marksmanship skill +7
Enhances "Dual Wield" effect
Sphere: Critical hit rate +3%
Set: Haste+8%


Please tell me how that is 'a great peace for the body'....not for monk and pup atleast. I would toss it as soon as it dropped...

[ThaiChi]

I actually did overlook the Mextli harness, because I will admit it is, in fact, kind of garbage, although I didn't mention it. Specifically I was looking at the Fazheluo Mail and the Anhur Robe. The mail is a great WS piece for SAM, hands down, especially if you have a Masamune or an Amanomurakamo. And even in comparison to the Twilight Mail, any SAM using a relic or empyrean knows to gear for attack for those respective weaponskills. And as I see it, its an excellent TP body for those jobs that want to use a Goading Belt over a Bullwhip that don't already have a Haste body (Specifically looking at WAR and DRG here).

As for the Anhur Robe, I did mention the fact that they introduced the party friendly Sphere effect which is good for any support job that can wear it. Example: Give a Bard this body and put them in a Black Mage party. Or even better yet, a Summoner (since this has Summoning Skill) and Shiva's Favor and you've got a whole lot of extra MAB for your Black Mages. And I dare you to find another body with 12 Enhancing Magic skill and Fast Cast.

And did you ever consider that there's no lines because there's an actual presentable challenge and you can't PUG a la Abyssea? If there was absolutely no desire for VW gear, why are the sellable pieces going for upwards of a mil? Why are the crafted versions of the body going for 5mil and however much the +1 price is trying to be extorted for? You don't do voidwatch without an established group of trusted players.

[Septimus]

I think what will be even sadder about Voidwatch is if the loot system stays the same (awful) and they put Empyrean Weapon upgrade items in the next round of Voidwatch. "Hey there Mr. "I only level mage jobs", want some Masamune upgrade items? Sure you do!"

[Bigboy]

I think what will be even sadder about Voidwatch is if the loot system stays the same (awful) and they put Empyrean Weapon upgrade items in the next round of Voidwatch. "Hey there Mr. "I only level mage jobs", want some Masamune upgrade items? Sure you do!"

On this note, I was honestly really surprised they went with seals and not +2 items. At least that wouldn't have been AS MUCH of a slap in the face. And the items have much more potential of being useful, because each one can be used to upgrade 5 potential pieces. The whole thing just feels so poorly thought out.

[DarkBass]

I certaninly would love to see the drop rate increased significantly. Since we have to use our own supply of cruor to increase drops, i would like to not have to silently bid on a body piece after dumping 100k in cruor into it. I've wasted enough cells on logs and i seriously would like a chance at a radiant mail, because i swear to god if another person in my shell has to level a job after they get one just to use it, im going to snap. Hard. I don't even like doing voidwatch for my own gain because i feel its a waste of my time personally, but i will always do it to support my shell. I've seen a two people in my shell get a mail, one had to level drg to use, but hardly uses/gets to use drg, the other is a drk, and the body isn't better to tp in than +2 bale body. Spent more time and cruor than i would have liked to get 5 strendu rings and a mantle. The drop rate needs a x12 monk boost.

...wait... you hear that? Thats the sound of everyone opening a chest saying "i got crap. Again."

[Ravenmore]

Since the Devs have already shot down the idea of changing the loot system as stated in that previous thread, I'll address the idea of wanting VW to be more like assaults. Why in the world would I want to do more assaults? Not only has it been done, but the whole idea was to introduce NEW content, not rehashed content that would take you weeks of grinding points to do.



Last I checked Ghorn hasn't reached Kannagi status. There's a reason why a lot of the gear that is sellable on the AH is going for upwards of a mil. Pipilaka Belt, Rancor Collar, Accursed Belt (why?!) are all rare drops that people want. Before it was adjusted, the craft items for the non r/ex versions of the body and the helms sold for a lot. Now they're dirt cheap, but the bodies are still selling for a lot. That's all great for the people are rolling in gil and don't want to put in the work for a sparkly body, but for those of us who actually are doing the content SE wants us to do, its a pretty huge chicken obstruction not getting any rewards or getting any kind of control of the rewards.

Who cares if people think they're sidegrades, it was put in the game to be desired and worked towards, its introducing a new stat that is party friendly, and lets face it, they actually are great pieces of gear for the body.

aGil has lost so much value it sad. One mil is 2 decent exp parties on Dom ops you get notes to off set what you get from cruor. Then you can sell your brews people will pay and will pay over giving up the gear. The whole party friend is pure crap. Angon is the best e.x of this, while doing it at the start of the fight it help the whole xp party few did it and only did it to stroke their own epeen. Then there was DDs that bitch about dia getting reflected or mages that were just to lazy to cast it in the first place.

Ares was the best drg WS body yet you could get a adj off a mob that was kill so many times it was a trash drop and spend a 3rd of the gil to buy the -1 cursed item and it would be close. That is on top of not having to fight everyone in the group for it. Sidegrades are well and good if they are not harder then something else. If the item is truely better then what had came before then it being harder to get, then that is great thats the way it should be.

Really Accursed Belt going for a mil, lol were im at its down to 250k. Thats pretty good if your not the main focus of the mob you take a few points of damage you can hit a macro and get topped off. Rancor collar is only good once you build up enough hate for it plenty of time to work in a couple of abyssea parties sure you could fing a couple of people to cruor farm or join a dom op party.

[Leonlionheart]

I said this somewhere else but I'll place it here.

Instead of having Radiant Mail drop to a WHM who only has mage jobs, why not make the drop like a token where you can turn it in and pick any of the three "Sphere" bodies?

[Zatias]

I still don't get why they didn't give you the option to POOL YOUR REWARD TO THE ALLIANCE.

Must be ps2 limitations.

[Eldelphia]

Allow people to add their loot to the alliance pool and improve the drop rates.