Lack of content and another level increase looming

[hiko]

The first week after abyssea the forums were fillled with "ez mode" so no. But hey it just seems that you don't have full usu and were happy to have a shot at the best gear ?

vision was not easier than end game @lvl75

(for "good" player both was easy)

[Karinya_of_Carbuncle]

With the increase in the level cap almost every piece of content FFXI had was made obsolete

FTFY. 15-24 more levels was going to trivialize kings, sky gods, jailers, wyrms, Cerb/Hydra/Khim, Dynamis, Limbus, Assault, Nyzul, Salvage, Einherjar, KSNMs, ANNMs, and ZNMs (am I leaving anything out?) even if there was no new gear whatsoever. Almost any gear higher than level 75, no matter where it came from, is going to have superior stats to the old 70-75 gear. Abyssea gets the blame for this because it pretty much *is* the 76-90 content.

this would of been fine if there had been swathes of new content added after abyssea or regular addons/expansions but neither of these things happened.

Yet. It took how many years to accumulate all the 75 endgame content? (Admittedly, I once raised that very point as a reason not to raise the level cap and wreck all the 75 endgame content, although not on these forums because they didn't exist yet, but that ship has sailed.)

There's more to do now than there was when RotZ first raised the cap to 75 (iirc even sky didn't exist at the time), a lot less than there was after several years of development of content aimed at level 75. The elimination of the level grind just makes it so that you can't occupy your time leveling a new job (except BLU, since you can't learn spells from a GoV page or a sturdy pyxis -- while you can level it fast, you still need to skillup and learn spells to be worth anything).

Personally, I can't name a single player who is bored -- the people in my LS that are on much more time than I am are working on empys or using their recently finished empys to help someone else work on theirs; I'm working on BLU spells and skillups, a couple of non-emp trial swords, seals, +2s, Wightslayer, a couple of fame-intensive quested abyssites I haven't gotten around to yet, and planning to do a few more quested WS when I'm not busy with all the other stuff I just listed. Well before I finish all that, 95 will hit, and I'll need to level up 6 jobs, farm half a million gil for ridiculously expensive NPC-only dice, add another stage on the 3 trials weapons I already have at 90 and the 2 I'm working on for BLU, get any new spells I can get (other than Fire V and Blizzard V, which are already sitting in my satchel), including new BLU spells that can't just be bought, and then I'll take a look at the new content.

Oh, and if I have time after all of *that*, I might do some trial staffs. Especially if the new content doesn't involve having Atma of the Ultimate + Beyond on anytime I nuke anything. Trial staffs for nuking are a massive time sink because you need different ones for every element, and potentially might even want the macc-heavy version *and* the mab-heavy version for different fights. And you have to do them on staff-using jobs, which are typically slow to solo without atma.

From my perspective (having a relatively limited time available to log in per week), there's so much to do already that I can't realistically even think about one empy, let alone one for all my main jobs. Maybe you just have too much time on your hands if you're burning through all the content faster than SE can develop more of it.

[Francisco]

The first week after abyssea the forums were fillled with "ez mode" so no. But hey it just seems that you don't have full usu and were happy to have a shot at the best gear ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...2x/taipan1.jpg

(Taken shortly after Visions was released.)

Try again.

[MarkovChain]

It doesn't change the fact that the disparition of balance between hard to get gear and easy to get gear is what made and still makes people complain and that, unlike what you claimed earlier, full usu was not the best gear. Full usu was actually average gear since salvage was quite "old" and white gate being filled with full usu pup and monks. For some reason you think people were attached to their full usu status as if it was the best. The state of the game for MNK was actually axtremely balanced.

Top weapon = relic or shenlong
top gear = Turban/hachiryu body/Bando kotes/byakko/usukane feet
end game gear = full usu
average gear = sky
medicocre gear= the rest.

It seems that you are the one that thought you had status gear and wants to be the cool kid that prefers everyone to have the same gear as him. Your equip history shows that you either quit after abyssea was realeased (mad at the loss of your status ?) or it took you way too long to get it. Something is wrong.

[Francisco]

It doesn't change the fact that the disparition of balance between hard to get gear and easy to get gear is what made and still makes people complain and that, unlike what you claimed earlier, full usu was not the best gear. Full usu was actually average gear since salvage was quite "old" and white gate being filled with full usu pup and monks. For some reason you think people were attached to their full usu status as if it was the best. The state of the game for MNK was actually axtremely balanced.

And again, how many people had Hachiryu Body across all servers? 10? 20? How many were MNKs? Hachiryu may have been the best - but it's irrelevant due to the extreme rarity. For all intents and purposes, Usukane was the best.

It seems that you are the one that thought you had status gear and wants to be the cool kid that prefers everyone to have the same gear as him.

I've always done the best within reason to keep my character top of the line - but nothing extreme. I didn't have any interest in doing Dynamis, so I never bothered with relic. Had Shenlong's to myself, but I let a PUP have them because I was barely playing at that point and I like to make LS Tarus happy.

Your equip history shows that you either quit after abyssea was realeased (mad at the loss of your status ?) or it took you way too long to get it. Something is wrong.

What are you talking about? I played regularly from October 2003 until April 2009 - at which point I effectively quit because WotG was going nowhere - LS activity was dwindling to nothing, and I was generally bored with the game. I logged on a few random times over summer of 2009 for PW kills and some Einherjar - then just quit entirely.

I came back right before Abyssea was released, and as soon as the level capped was raised I started on magian weapons, Abyssea quests, collecting pops for NMs and had fun in the game. I've been playing regularly ever since Abyssea was released. What in my equip history says I quit over Abyssea?

If you're talking about all my gear being seemingly obtained in May on FFXIAH - it wasn't. That's because of the server merge.

Either that, or I got Black Belt, did Divine Might, got 5/5 Tantra +2, Camped Valkurm Emperor (AND GOT THE DROP!), did a whole ton of sea mobs/NMs, finished CoP missions and got Rajas, got Atheling and bought an Amemet Mantle +1, killed Shinryu, did a whole ton of guild point stuff, killed a ton of other NMs (AND GOT THE DROP!) - and got a Fortune Egg - even though the Easter event was over - all in the same day.

I'll let you figure that one out.

[Ravenmore]

Having gear is never a good measure of a good player. I seen the worest players in the game have the best gear, the one thing they were good at was farming gil. Not putting down those that did camp the NMs, did the events or made the PW pops(since only those that wanted PW drops made pops). Being able to listen, teach, lead are fators so much more important then gear. Those things make truely elite players. Any group that can do those things could/can kill any NM in the game that any perfect geared LS could. Could the perfect geared LS kill it faster sure if they could follow the basics if they couldn't they would zombie and limp along like any one else that refuse to learn.

[Leonlionheart]

Having gear is never a good measure of a good player. I seen the worest players in the game have the best gear, the one thing they were good at was farming gil. Not putting down those that did camp the NMs, did the events or made the PW pops(since only those that wanted PW drops made pops). Being able to listen, teach, lead are fators so much more important then gear. Those things make truely elite players. Any group that can do those things could/can kill any NM in the game that any perfect geared LS could. Could the perfect geared LS kill it faster sure if they could follow the basics if they couldn't they would zombie and limp along like any one else that refuse to learn.

I agree with this to an extent, specially now where the best gear is so readily available.

HOWEVER, there's a HELL of a lot more good players that have good gear, than there are bad players that have good gear.

[MarkovChain]

And again, how many people had Hachiryu Body across all servers? 10? 20? How many were MNKs? Hachiryu may have been the best - but it's irrelevant due to the extreme rarity. For all intents and purposes, Usukane was the best.

Ah ok, so because the great Francisco didn't have it it means it should not be considered. LOL. The item exists because there has been a demand from the playerbase for hard fights and hard goals. We don't care if it hurts you little ego that you can't get it, but some people set their goals high, and that's how they keep playing and having fun.

I've always done the best within reason to keep my character top of the line - but nothing extreme.

Destroyers ?

I didn't have any interest in doing Dynamis, so I never bothered with relic.

I knew it.

I came back right before Abyssea was released, and as soon as the level capped was raised I started on magian weapons, Abyssea quests, collecting pops for NMs and had fun in the game. I've been playing regularly ever since Abyssea was released. What in my equip history says I quit over Abyssea?

If you're talking about all my gear being seemingly obtained in May on FFXIAH - it wasn't. That's because of the server merge.

Either that, or I got Black Belt, did Divine Might, got 5/5 Tantra +2, Camped Valkurm Emperor (AND GOT THE DROP!), did a whole ton of sea mobs/NMs, finished CoP missions and got Rajas, got Atheling and bought an Amemet Mantle +1, killed Shinryu, did a whole ton of guild point stuff, killed a ton of other NMs (AND GOT THE DROP!) - and got a Fortune Egg - even though the Easter event was over - all in the same day.

I'll let you figure that one out.

Verethragna is only obtained in march of this year as well as the +2 gear that was out by september. It says enough on what kind of player you are since you say you did not quit. How come you only got that gear that late ? I mean, it's fine to laugh at the monk that were crying because their full usu was (supposedely "was") no longer the best, but at least put it in practice...

[Kimble]

Can you ever shut up and admit you are wrong?

[MarkovChain]

Surprise. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.], wait for +10 levels to be given to them and end up arguing everywhere on forums how it's a bad thing to remove abyssea gear status