Lack of content and another level increase looming

[MarkovChain]

What I mean is, a lot of people think that once they have the best gear, they assume it'll stay the best forever.
Plenty of Usukane MNKs, for instance, flipped out at the introduction of Tantra +2.

Maybe because the best gear was too easy to obtain ? Full usu was not the best : you didn't see many complains when PW came out which made it possible for mix and match to beat full usu ?

[Hayward]

Maybe because the best gear was too easy to obtain ? Full usu was not the best : you didn't see many complains when PW came out which made it possible for mix and match to beat full usu ?

This statement, among others, doesn't make much sense. It seems some players are so addicted to status that anything that is easily accessible (e.g. Tantra Attire +1/+2) is dismissed out of hand regardless of quality. If nothing else, I am ecstatic that I don't need the drama/politics/a-hattery of most HNM shells from years back to get good gear for the jobs I have leveled to 90.

I haven't done Voidwatch yet, but I wouldn't mind trying it out once the bugs are ironed out and the concept is fleshed out a little more.

[MarkovChain]

The best gear came from salvage, sky and limbus, znms, and for 1-2 pieces, einherjar,what kind of game did you play ? I think you are trying to find excuses for your bad gear at 75.

[Aeonk]

It's funny you say that there's no content in the game anymore. Most pre-abyssea endgame events still have something useful to them.

Sky: W legs will never stop being useful. Also Synergy augments to sky pieces, and Divine Might earrings.

sea: Some homam pieces are still good. Just about everyone is going to need a Brutal Earring and/or Loq. earring (most will probably need both.) Then there's Mars Rings and Ninurta Sashes, now that they're somewhat feasable to get.

land kings: A few of these pieces are still good (N legs and E body come to mind, synergy augments and all.) And every MNK is gonna need a Blackbelt sooner or later. Also Herald's gaiters.

Dynamis: recently revamped for Neo Dynamis (or Arch Dynamis, whatever people wanna call it.) Some interesting gear and legitimate challenge in there. Sagasinger looks like a fun toy.

Einherjar: Abjurations and Valhalla. Still useful.

Assaults: Well.... mainly Nyzul Isle here. Some of those WS's are decent for non-Empyrean WS folks.

Salvage: Ares Cuirass is still a pretty good Torcleaver piece from what I've read.

WoTG: Hermes sandals ingredients from Dark Ixion, V belt from Sandworm KA.

There's plenty of content in the game besides abyssea. And in the event you have already "been there, done that": then level a new job and go through all the above events again to pick up that 1 or 2 pieces from each you need to be optimal, alongside having a new job to work on in abyssea.
There are ways to kill time in the game besides standing around in Jeuno.

[Michae]

I've already moved on to other games, just drop in here now and then to see whats new. I havent logged on for more than afew minutes in a loooong time. Abyssea = spamming nm 50 times for 50 drops for a weapon i can use on another 50 nm for 50 drops = boredom. And thats all the game really is anymore. On the bright side I am seeing a whole game world outside of SE I forgot even existed. FFXI just got to WoW for me both in content and playership. /em YAWN maybe I will go play zelda now.

[Selzak]

If the PS Vita port really happens, it might breathe some serious life into FFXI (like, genuine expansions amount of breath). Still standing by and hoping that it actually happens, but if it does then I will be pleasantly surprised by SE doing the smart thing and expanding a game that could really gather a huge following through that port and giving neo-FFXI another shot at gaining more subscribers. FFXIV is a flop, FFXI is a game that I think a lot of people would become a part of if they only knew it was there.

[Elphy]

ffxiv isnt so much a flop anymore, its getting better and better as they go. 1.18 was fantastic and 1.19 and 1.20 seem like they will be huge and fantastic as well. The only way its a flop for most current ffxi players is that it doesnt have the ease of lvling ppl have become accustomed to in the current incarnation of xi. Nearly my whole ls has moved to xiv because there is more to do there than there currently is on xi for ppl who have been playing xi for yrs, such as we all have

[Selzak]

ffxiv isnt so much a flop anymore, its getting better and better as they go. 1.18 was fantastic and 1.19 and 1.20 seem like they will be huge and fantastic as well. The only way its a flop for most current ffxi players is that it doesnt have the ease of lvling ppl have become accustomed to in the current incarnation of xi. Nearly my whole ls has moved to xiv because there is more to do there than there currently is on xi for ppl who have been playing xi for yrs, such as we all have

The way I understood it was that XIV development is what influenced Abyssea (and hence the easy leveling), and was not a game to play for any sort of a challenge- even that you are punished for playing too long. Not to mention the copy/pasta work in some of the zones that is just ridiculous...has that been fixed/can it be?

[Francisco]

Maybe because the best gear was too easy to obtain ? Full usu was not the best : you didn't see many complains when PW came out which made it possible for mix and match to beat full usu ?

They were flipping out before they even knew how to get it.

PW... really? How many monks had access to a Hachiryu body? My LS was the first and (I believe) only group to kill PW on Alexander. I know some shells on other servers killed it a few times - but it wasn't really going down very often.

Also, I remember a bunch of people demanding SE fix E.Body and Ridill...

[Michae]

The way I understood it was that XIV development is what influenced Abyssea (and hence the easy leveling), and was not a game to play for any sort of a challenge- even that you are punished for playing too long. Not to mention the copy/pasta work in some of the zones that is just ridiculous...has that been fixed/can it be?

The fatigue system (which punished u for playing too long) is gone as of patch 1.18 and the maps are being rebooted to look less cut and paste and more unique than they currently are. They fired the orig xiv team and replaced it with ppl from xi and some others. We are finally getting chocos and airships in the next update and they are intriducing the job system. Major changes have been done to the game and are currently in the works which have already made the game alot more playable. SE is notorious for cut and paste anyway, look around xi, its major cut and paste. The biggest example being any aby zone lol.

As for xiv being the reason for aby....I personally think its more likely se is trying to rush everyone thru the game so they can reduce the amount of servers and get ppl to move on. I mean come on, taking away the lvl cap for CoP, introducing summons u can only get after completeing toau, and coming soon wotg with cait sith and atomos, its an obvious ploy to get ppl to finish those expansions quickly. They said they would give a year warning before they shut down their servers but that would cost them too much I'm sure. And ppl can say what they will but its just my personal opinion. FFXI is dying and there is nothing we can do. Sad really, Ive invested alot of time in that game over the years and now I dont bother to log in except to chat with my ls....whats left of it anyway since most ppl already jumped ship