So, Fafnir

[Korpg]

With decent Haste buffs the 6hit will win. Its been mathed out many times. Ukon has excellent white damage and you are forgetting the 120 delay attached to each WS.

Except we can always expect 80% haste buffs 100% of the time, right?

Even on a lowman situation?

[Taint2]

Except we can always expect 80% haste buffs 100% of the time, right?

Even on a lowman situation?

All it takes is Haste and Hasso. With marches the 6hit will murder the 5hit. You are greatly underestimating haste,DA,att and WS delays effect on DPS.

[Korpg]

All it takes is Haste and Hasso. With marches the 6hit will murder the 5hit. You are greatly underestimating haste,DA,att and WS delays effect on DPS.

Actually, I think you are underestimating WS damage.

I have .4% less haste than cap. 25% haste with a 5 hit is not hard to get.

Attack and Double Attack, I'll agree with you though, they are very important, but still, they take a back seat for a reduction of hits between WSs. The damage output by Ukko's Fury is outstanding.

Besides, didn't the maths also state that over time, given that all other things are equal, a 5 hit with a reduction of attack and double attack will still win out over a 6 hit with a minimal increase of Double Attack and Attack?

[uptempo]

All it takes is Haste and Hasso. With marches the 6hit will murder the 5hit. You are greatly underestimating haste,DA,att and WS delays effect on DPS.

Honestly from his posts he's thick headed Taint i wouldn't even bother trying to explain the benefits of 6 hit ukon to him he won't take it in.

[Korpg]

Honestly from his posts he's thick headed Taint i wouldn't even bother trying to explain the benefits of 6 hit ukon to him he won't take it in.

Really productive post there, you know.

I'm not thick, I do take suggestions to heart. But I need to question why this setup is better than that, I do that all the time, and I'm surprised you don't do the same. I am not a cookie cutter player, I actually think for myself. I suggest you do the same.