Why was Click N Buy Added again

[Tamoa]

There is a fee for doing a currency change, and how yen is calculated is different then how euros are calculated which both are different from the us doller. What I was trying to explain, is our servers are not region locked.

We use international servers. Mmo with region locked servers are headed by the division the servers are under. Like Blizzards US servers control the US servers and US pays the US company. While Blizzard EU controlls the EU servers and EU pays the EU division. This means since SE is located in japan, they can take the payments from the japanese player base. Since they are local.
Playonline was a middle man, and prob converted our money from their own pocket. But since it is getting phased out and our accounts turning into SE accounts. They needed away for us to pay them. And picked what they could. We just gotta get used to it, or give them Ideas on a better way we can pay them. I would perfer time cards Like blizzard and Aion issue out.

You really have little to no idea what you are talking about.

[wildsprite]

I'm a bit confused with the friend list thing... they're actually removing the friend list? ; ;

not according to their information, they removed access to anything to do with billing within playonline and they closed friends list plus and access to billing information from the playonline website

[RAIST]

USD is an established standard for international commerce. There was a movement to try to make it the Euro at one time, but I think it died out. Go to most currency rate trackers, and the tables are often calculated against 1USD. So it would make since for international companies to keep USD and Euro accounts on hand for ease of operations. Assets are appraised for their value in whatever currency you request for the appraisal--but you may need to have a currency more readily acceptible for buying/selling just to avoid complications in the process.

That being said, companies do in fact keep accounts in regional currencies also to facilitate trade with locals in that region. Could you see SE, CA goint to Office Depot to get supplies in a foreign currency? I don't think so.

Also, they have contracts with regional credit card processors for the their online store. Surprise--it goes through the same division that my FFXI fees went through for years. So these agreements are still in place, and should still be available to use--just for some reason, SE has chosen not to use it. Either because the way they want to bill created some technical or regulatory SNAFU they either couldn't/wouldn't address for some reason, or maybe it was indeed a simple cost analysis. Who knows... simple facts remain: pieces to the puzzle are in place to accomplish directpay via CC as they have always done, but for some unknown reason, SE has CHOSEN not to do what would be required to continue to do so.

[Chamaan]

Seems to me it's this: It's because they want to consolidate the accounts for players that pay for XI and XIV both, since they originally planned to have a bundle deal where you got charged an even 20 bucks for subscribing to both before XIV went into free-to-play-Beta limbo. They need both billings to be in the same system so they're not trying to marry two billing systems together. And they think it's easier to make XI switch to what they planned for XIV than to give XIV PoL.

Which is fairly stupid if you I'm right, because the whole purpose of PoL was that they wanted to branch out into a bunch of online games, starting with Tetra and XI. Why not just revamp PoL to not suck and let us connect to XIV through that? Only complaint with PoL I have right now besides random crashes (which could be fixed) is that it's a whole extra hoop to jump through just to get at one game. They already had a billing infrastructure put together, should've just stuck with it.

[RAIST]

That might hold water except for the simple fact that they set up the same POL billing option for the JP with-in the SEID biling system. If it is integrated into the SEID account management for FFXI, it can also be integrated for use with FFXIV. So, that negates the notion they are trying to pull FFXIV/FFXI into the same billing system options if they are going to single out one option like this for just one region of players.

In short. that is where it all breaks down, regardless. They have tipped the scales of equality by taking the extra steps required to extend this established method to just one region of players.

[Sp1cyryan]

the REAL reason, is they are phasing out playonline. This means they are getting rid of the use of it. Playonline will only be used as a launcher by september. SE choose C&B through a corprate decision. Playonline was a third party way for the non japanese to pay for ffxiv. Since japanese use different currency we really can not pay them directly due to the exchange rate, and possibly large fees to switch our currency into theirs. This is why japanese can pay SE directly. And in be for you name companies like blizzard, most mmo are seperated by region. And We pay the division of said company. Like european players pay blizzards european division ect. What you guys should understand, is SE did not forsee that we the players would have issues. Our issues are out of the hands of SE and it is the issue of your bank or credit union or credit card company verses click and buy. As well as click and buy verses your region. SE did inform the community reps that they are looking into better options.

Rosina works for corporate SE, they know these things. SE did not think we have a problem guys, see we never have problems with any new SE implementation so how could they have forseen problems, inconvenience, outrage, and so on?!?

On a more serious note the best one I have heard so far that I like is that as with other companies, they are outsourcing their billing to cut down on transaction fees and headache.

SE did inform the community reps that they are looking into better options.

This would better be known as a PR stunt.

[noodles355]

I wasn't being synical or sarcastic in my last post. Saying "We want a 3rd party to deal with it as they have better security" directly translates to "If it gets hacked, we don't want to be the ones responsible". That's all this is, SE is trying to cover their asses incase our financial infomation gets hacked. It's not currancy or exchange rates. It's just they don't want to be held responsible.

The argument that should be brought to SE's attention now is their choice of a 3rd party. I find it ironic they want to use a company blacklisted by many banks to improve our financial security.

[Tamoa]

I wasn't being synical or sarcastic in my last post. Saying "We want a 3rd party to deal with it as they have better security" directly translates to "If it gets hacked, we don't want to be the ones responsible". That's all this is, SE is trying to cover their asses incase our financial infomation gets hacked. It's not currancy or exchange rates. It's just they don't want to be held responsible.

The argument that should be brought to SE's attention now is their choice of a 3rd party. I find it ironic they want to use a company blacklisted by many banks to improve our financial security.

It still doesn't explain why Japanese players can pay SE directly though. ; ;

[Sp1cyryan]

It still doesn't explain why Japanese players can pay SE directly though. ; ;

Until we morph into dollar bills that SE can spend on things, SE does not care about us other than keeping us interested in paying.

[Atomic_Skull]

Lowest bidder. Same reason any company contracts with anybody.

Unfortunately like many companies SE has forgotten that when a contractor makes an unrealistically low bid they are lying about being able to do it for that much.