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    Player Nianny's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aver View Post
    It's just friends list plus, from what I've surmised.

    Se's usual vague wording is vague.
    I hope you're right as in my opinion removing the friend list would be nonsense. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Since japanese use different currency we really can not pay them directly due to the exchange rate, and possibly large fees to switch our currency into theirs. This is why japanese can pay SE directly. And in be for you name companies like blizzard, most mmo are seperated by region. And We pay the division of said company. Like european players pay blizzards european division ect. What you guys should understand, is SE did not forsee that we the players would have issues. Our issues are out of the hands of SE and it is the issue of your bank or credit union or credit card company verses click and buy. As well as click and buy verses your region. SE did inform the community reps that they are looking into better options.
    SE have stated on this very forum that they chose to have payments done through a 3rd party for security reasons. They never once said anything about different currencies being a problem.

    And if it really is matter of security - I guess that doesn't apply if you live in Japan then, since they can pay SE directly. Heck, they could charge us a fixed fee in yen then, or at least give us that option, and let the bank/CC company do the maths. I have no clue about rate of exchange from yen to my currency, but at this rate it sounds like a valid option to me. -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    the REAL reason, is they are phasing out playonline. This means they are getting rid of the use of it. Playonline will only be used as a launcher by september. SE choose C&B through a corprate decision. Playonline was a third party way for the non japanese to pay for ffxiv. Since japanese use different currency we really can not pay them directly due to the exchange rate, and possibly large fees to switch our currency into theirs. This is why japanese can pay SE directly. And in be for you name companies like blizzard, most mmo are seperated by region. And We pay the division of said company. Like european players pay blizzards european division ect. What you guys should understand, is SE did not forsee that we the players would have issues. Our issues are out of the hands of SE and it is the issue of your bank or credit union or credit card company verses click and buy. As well as click and buy verses your region. SE did inform the community reps that they are looking into better options.
    SE had us paying divisions of the company too, so I don't see what your point is with that. Click and Buy also has regional divisions, but I don't know what they are doing--perhaps they're using their UK division to charge North American clients instead of using their North American division.

    Anyways, I doubt SE is converting all the income to the yen anyways. International companies have expenses and employees throughout the globe, so it is advantageous to them to keep accounts with several different types of currency, in particular their nation's currency, the US dollar, and the Euro. By not changing these currencies, the company is able to use those to pay international expenses and employees without having to convert the money back to whichever type they need, which would incur a second currency exchange fee.

    Also, Noodles and Tamoa already responded with SE's claim for the reason for the change. The reason doesn't make sense because SE is still keeping the Japanese direct payment with a credit card (No 3rd party) option.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Once the transfer is done our POL friendlist will be removed.
    Incorrect. Friendlist plus (using friend list while online, but not logged into POL viewer / FFXI) is being phased out. The friend list feature will still remain in game. The reps answered a question about this somewhere, but it it buried in old threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Once the transfer is done our POL friendlist will be removed.
    FOR THE LAST TIME! NO IT WILL NOT! Just the advanced or w/e it's called. You have been corrected about this before.
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    Proud to be "Old School" and to have completed CoP pre-nerf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khiinroye View Post
    Anyways, I doubt SE is converting all the income to the yen anyways. International companies have expenses and employees throughout the globe, so it is advantageous to them to keep accounts with several different types of currency, in particular their nation's currency, the US dollar, and the Euro. By not changing these currencies, the company is able to use those to pay international expenses and employees without having to convert the money back to whichever type they need, which would incur a second currency exchange fee.
    This. I highly doubt that the monthly fee from each player no matter which country they live in, are all paid into one and the same bank account, that would make no sense whatsoever.
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    that is what I read, sorry I didn't see the plus part.
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    There is a fee for doing a currency change, and how yen is calculated is different then how euros are calculated which both are different from the us doller. What I was trying to explain, is our servers are not region locked.

    We use international servers. Mmo with region locked servers are headed by the division the servers are under. Like Blizzards US servers control the US servers and US pays the US company. While Blizzard EU controlls the EU servers and EU pays the EU division. This means since SE is located in japan, they can take the payments from the japanese player base. Since they are local.
    Playonline was a middle man, and prob converted our money from their own pocket. But since it is getting phased out and our accounts turning into SE accounts. They needed away for us to pay them. And picked what they could. We just gotta get used to it, or give them Ideas on a better way we can pay them. I would perfer time cards Like blizzard and Aion issue out.
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    Umm...playonline isn't a third party. Playonline was created/owned by Square Soft, now SE. And if they could take direct payment from other regions before, why can't they do it now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juri_Licious View Post
    I'm a noob, and i'd like to know.
    Lowest bidder. Same reason any company contracts with anybody.
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    I believe mostly for an increase in SE's convenience at the expense of Western players' convenience, frankly.

    Or, according to Rosina, "didnt' u kno that japanese dollers r diffrent from us dollers lol u idiots thats y u r all so stoopid!!"
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    Last edited by Selzak; 08-07-2011 at 04:02 AM.

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