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    Player Juri_Licious's Avatar
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    Why was Click N Buy Added again

    I'm a noob, and i'd like to know.
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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Because instead of paying SE directly, they thought it would be better to use real money to pay a 3rd party to buy fake currency to pay SE.
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    To kick all the non-Japanese off the game.

    SE are racists!
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    I guess they just picked it cause they gave them the best deal, was done as quickly and with as little thought as possible. They made sure to give JP playerbase the best options they could of course. When FFXIV was getting a bad reception they blamed the western players for it which showed how they felt about non-jp players as a company. Maybe these horrible payment options are kind of a punishment for what they see as western players ruining the rep of FFXIV.
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    Last edited by Runespider; 08-06-2011 at 05:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Maybe these horrible payment options are kind of a punishment for what they see as western players ruining the rep of FFXIV.
    FFXIV ruined the reputation of FFXIV
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    Player Rosina's Avatar
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    the REAL reason, is they are phasing out playonline. This means they are getting rid of the use of it. Playonline will only be used as a launcher by september. SE choose C&B through a corprate decision. Playonline was a third party way for the non japanese to pay for ffxiv. Since japanese use different currency we really can not pay them directly due to the exchange rate, and possibly large fees to switch our currency into theirs. This is why japanese can pay SE directly. And in be for you name companies like blizzard, most mmo are seperated by region. And We pay the division of said company. Like european players pay blizzards european division ect. What you guys should understand, is SE did not forsee that we the players would have issues. Our issues are out of the hands of SE and it is the issue of your bank or credit union or credit card company verses click and buy. As well as click and buy verses your region. SE did inform the community reps that they are looking into better options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Since japanese use different currency we really can not pay them directly due to the exchange rate, and possibly large fees to switch our currency into theirs. This is why japanese can pay SE directly. And in be for you name companies like blizzard, most mmo are seperated by region. And We pay the division of said company. Like european players pay blizzards european division ect. What you guys should understand, is SE did not forsee that we the players would have issues. Our issues are out of the hands of SE and it is the issue of your bank or credit union or credit card company verses click and buy. As well as click and buy verses your region. SE did inform the community reps that they are looking into better options.
    SE have stated on this very forum that they chose to have payments done through a 3rd party for security reasons. They never once said anything about different currencies being a problem.

    And if it really is matter of security - I guess that doesn't apply if you live in Japan then, since they can pay SE directly. Heck, they could charge us a fixed fee in yen then, or at least give us that option, and let the bank/CC company do the maths. I have no clue about rate of exchange from yen to my currency, but at this rate it sounds like a valid option to me. -.-
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    Player Khiinroye's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    the REAL reason, is they are phasing out playonline. This means they are getting rid of the use of it. Playonline will only be used as a launcher by september. SE choose C&B through a corprate decision. Playonline was a third party way for the non japanese to pay for ffxiv. Since japanese use different currency we really can not pay them directly due to the exchange rate, and possibly large fees to switch our currency into theirs. This is why japanese can pay SE directly. And in be for you name companies like blizzard, most mmo are seperated by region. And We pay the division of said company. Like european players pay blizzards european division ect. What you guys should understand, is SE did not forsee that we the players would have issues. Our issues are out of the hands of SE and it is the issue of your bank or credit union or credit card company verses click and buy. As well as click and buy verses your region. SE did inform the community reps that they are looking into better options.
    SE had us paying divisions of the company too, so I don't see what your point is with that. Click and Buy also has regional divisions, but I don't know what they are doing--perhaps they're using their UK division to charge North American clients instead of using their North American division.

    Anyways, I doubt SE is converting all the income to the yen anyways. International companies have expenses and employees throughout the globe, so it is advantageous to them to keep accounts with several different types of currency, in particular their nation's currency, the US dollar, and the Euro. By not changing these currencies, the company is able to use those to pay international expenses and employees without having to convert the money back to whichever type they need, which would incur a second currency exchange fee.

    Also, Noodles and Tamoa already responded with SE's claim for the reason for the change. The reason doesn't make sense because SE is still keeping the Japanese direct payment with a credit card (No 3rd party) option.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Once the transfer is done our POL friendlist will be removed.
    Incorrect. Friendlist plus (using friend list while online, but not logged into POL viewer / FFXI) is being phased out. The friend list feature will still remain in game. The reps answered a question about this somewhere, but it it buried in old threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khiinroye View Post
    Anyways, I doubt SE is converting all the income to the yen anyways. International companies have expenses and employees throughout the globe, so it is advantageous to them to keep accounts with several different types of currency, in particular their nation's currency, the US dollar, and the Euro. By not changing these currencies, the company is able to use those to pay international expenses and employees without having to convert the money back to whichever type they need, which would incur a second currency exchange fee.
    This. I highly doubt that the monthly fee from each player no matter which country they live in, are all paid into one and the same bank account, that would make no sense whatsoever.
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    I wasn't being synical or sarcastic in my last post. Saying "We want a 3rd party to deal with it as they have better security" directly translates to "If it gets hacked, we don't want to be the ones responsible". That's all this is, SE is trying to cover their asses incase our financial infomation gets hacked. It's not currancy or exchange rates. It's just they don't want to be held responsible.

    The argument that should be brought to SE's attention now is their choice of a 3rd party. I find it ironic they want to use a company blacklisted by many banks to improve our financial security.
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    Last edited by noodles355; 08-07-2011 at 06:58 AM.

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