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    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    It was also viable because, at the time (up to lvl 80), Tornado Kick could put out damage comparable to or better than Asuran Fists. However with the advent of the Razed Ruin atma, both of those got obsoleted by Victory Smite, Ascetic's Fury, and even Backhand Blow.
    Asuran is and always has been the WORST WS choice mnks could use, it was never good for anything other then to stop enemy spells, even howling fist is better then asuran.

    Why is it the worst weapon skill?
    It cannot critical OR double attack, it has VERY low mods 10% STR and VIT it is just 8 weak hits that in all honesty you probably would have done more damage not weapon skilling and just normal punching.

    Still not convinced? try it under a brew and watch those amazing numbers, it's a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Asuran is and always has been the WORST WS choice mnks could use, it was never good for anything other then to stop enemy spells, even howling fist is better then asuran.

    Why is it the worst weapon skill?
    It cannot critical OR double attack, it has VERY low mods 10% STR and VIT it is just 8 weak hits that in all honesty you probably would have done more damage not weapon skilling and just normal punching.

    Still not convinced? try it under a brew and watch those amazing numbers, it's a joke.
    Asuran fists was the best ws at 75/80 cap on anything with low defense. Mobs with higher defense, Howling Fist would pull ahead because of its cratio boost.

    Without smite, Asuran Fists is still a respectable weaponskill in the same situations outside abyssea. With impetus up, Ascetic's Fury would be better, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Asuran is and always has been the WORST WS choice mnks could use, it was never good for anything other then to stop enemy spells, even howling fist is better then asuran.

    Why is it the worst weapon skill?
    It cannot critical OR double attack, it has VERY low mods 10% STR and VIT it is just 8 weak hits that in all honesty you probably would have done more damage not weapon skilling and just normal punching.

    Still not convinced? try it under a brew and watch those amazing numbers, it's a joke.
    Someone (at least hopefully) has never played mnk before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Asuran is and always has been the WORST WS choice mnks could use, it was never good for anything other then to stop enemy spells, even howling fist is better then asuran.

    Why is it the worst weapon skill?
    It cannot critical OR double attack, it has VERY low mods 10% STR and VIT it is just 8 weak hits that in all honesty you probably would have done more damage not weapon skilling and just normal punching.

    Still not convinced? try it under a brew and watch those amazing numbers, it's a joke.
    Spoken like someone who didn't play monk at all pre-abyssea, jumped on the monk bandwagon, and burned their monk through Abyssea.

    Dumbest post I have read on this forum yet.
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    Player Monchat's Avatar
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    It is true that asuran fists was an average weaponskill, compared to some other jobs weapon skills ( like raging rush) but it was the best H2H ws ( well excepte final heaven and PUP's nuzul ws maybe). It was still better than GK or dagger WS for example (unstacked). Being an average ws by itself didn't prevent mnk from being the best/scond to best dd at the 75 cap, due to the massive DoT and WS frequency.

    Pro Tip: you stack ATK for asuran fist, STR and VIT are only good if incremented by 10. STR+VIT=200, and remainder mix and match with acc and att, was a goot WS build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchat View Post
    It is true that asuran fists was an average weaponskill, compared to some other jobs weapon skills ( like raging rush) but it was the best H2H ws ( well excepte final heaven and PUP's nuzul ws maybe). It was still better than GK or dagger WS for example (unstacked). Being an average ws by itself didn't prevent mnk from being the best/scond to best dd at the 75 cap, due to the massive DoT and WS frequency.

    Pro Tip: you stack ATK for asuran fist, STR and VIT are only good if incremented by 10. STR+VIT=200, and remainder mix and match with acc and att, was a goot WS build.
    Asuran Fists is still a better weaponskill than Final Heaven. Asuran Fists was the best weaponskill available to monk pre-Abyssea hands-down.

    Pro Tip: You stack Accuracy on Asuran Fists until you are confidently connecting on all eight hits measured by consistent TP return. Of course this would vary greatly in accordance to what you were fighting.

    Not like any of this matters anymore.
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