The Big Book of Adjustment Requests

[TimeMage]

Sounds nice, but there's no trade-off. For this to work, its defensive skills need to flat-line.

Um, I was making this in the line of Restraint, only benefit but can only be active half the time. In fact, it has the same duration and recast. but sure, if you want, I'll add the lowering defensive skills, it's as useless Defender's Defense increase.

[Selzak]

Um, I was making this in the line of Restraint, only benefit but can only be active half the time. In fact, it has the same duration and recast. but sure, if you want, I'll add the lowering defensive skills, it's as useless Defender's Defense increase.

Restraint has a negative effect.

Edit: Nevermind, it used to.

[Panthera]

Um, I was making this in the line of Restraint, only benefit but can only be active half the time. In fact, it has the same duration and recast. but sure, if you want, I'll add the lowering defensive skills, it's as useless Defender's Defense increase.

Here's Warrior's combat skill ratings:

Skill Skill
Great Axe A+
Axe A-
Great Sword B+
Scythe B+
Staff B
Sword B
Polearm B-
Club B-
Dagger B-
Hand-to-Hand D
Archery D
Marksmanship D
Throwing D
Shield C+
Evasion C
Parrying C-

Did you intend to give it the ranged skills as well?

Also consider Warrior's "D" rating in Hand-to-Hand... would that move up one grade, or all the way to "A" ?

I wouldn't sell short having no defensive skills to fall back on! Ninjas and other jobs owe much to their defensive skills.

[TimeMage]

Here's Warrior's combat skill ratings:

Skill Skill
Great Axe A+
Axe A-
Great Sword B+
Scythe B+
Staff B
Sword B
Polearm B-
Club B-
Dagger B-
Hand-to-Hand D
Archery D
Marksmanship D
Throwing D
Shield C+
Evasion C
Parrying C-

Did you intend to give it the ranged skills as well?

Also consider Warrior's "D" rating in Hand-to-Hand... would that move up one grade, or all the way to "A" ?

I wouldn't sell short having no defensive skills to fall back on! Ninjas and other jobs owe much to their defensive skills.

According to my idea, all would go up one tier, stopping at A-, and the defensive ratings would fall to D. So the list would look like this, after JA use:

Great Axe A+
Axe A-
Great Sword A-
Scythe A-
Staff A-
Sword A-
Polearm A-
Club A-
Dagger A-
Hand-to-Hand C
Archery C
Marksmanship C
Throwing C
Shield D
Evasion D
Parrying D



Regarding defensive skills, they're only useful when high enough, and some aren't even useful capped at max skill (see: guard). WAR native defensive skills are low enough and not used enough to be completely irrelevant.

[Modoru]

and some aren't even useful capped at max skill (see: guard).

I'm pretty sure if Genome still played, he'd give you an earful. >:C Guard at max can be very useful. Just because nearly no monk has it, doesn't mean it's not good.

[Leonlionheart]

I'm pretty sure if Genome still played, he'd give you an earful. >:C Guard at max can be very useful. Just because nearly no monk has it, doesn't mean it's not good.

Guard at cap is the same as Guard at 1, or so I've been told. Where is proof otherwise?

[Modoru]

Guard at cap is the same as Guard at 1, or so I've been told. Where is proof otherwise?

Well, what exactly do you mean by "is the same"?

Proc rate is much higher at cap -- unless that was changed and Genome's info is dated -- but by 75 cap, with guard capped, you could have guard proc many times in a row, or maybe quite a few times per fight -- sometimes guarding multiple-hit TP attacks could completely null out damage sometimes, reading as a "miss".

Or at least, that's what little I remember -- would have to go to his blog and read it for yourself.