dump the PS2...

[Romanova]

Content ID are not bound to any System. They are bound to Regions only. there are US JP and EU ID's there is no such thing as a Ps2 ID.... at least that what i learned while playing around. If thats wrong enlighten me with the truth!

I think maybe he meant only having the discs for the ps2 not the content IDs? (just guessing)

But ya IDs aren't system specific by any means. I play on the ps2/PC all the time with the same accounts depending on whether or not I want to sit on the couch.

[RAIST]

I think maybe he meant only having the discs for the ps2 not the content IDs? (just guessing)

But ya IDs aren't system specific by any means. I play on the ps2/PC all the time with the same accounts depending on whether or not I want to sit on the couch.

Regardless, there are ways to identify how they are connecting. Even something as simple as the registared MAC address. They have a means to ID the system when it checks for updates. So it could be something they integrate only in the POL client that the PS2 downloads.

Granted, some could spoof MAC on a PC I guess... but if they are that hard up to save $5, $10, or $20 to buy a PC release.... Integrating it with the PS2 POL client would be the most likely way to set it up.

Point is, it could be done.

[Romanova]

Regardless, there are ways to identify how they are connecting. Even something as simple as the registared MAC address. They have a means to ID the system when it checks for updates. So it could be something they integrate only in the POL client that the PS2 downloads.

That's not a content ID thing though. I think you're confusing on what that ID actually does.

Yes you are correct that they can see what system you are accessing. But that has zero to do with the actual content ID.

[RAIST]

That's not a content ID thing though. I think you're confusing on what that ID actually does.

Yes you are correct that they can see what system you are accessing. But that has zero to do with the actual content ID.

That particular brain fart has already been pointed out and corrected on the record.

I'm simply used to dealing with software who's licensing is regionally assigned (Microsoft and IBM did this for years, not sure if they still do as I haven't dealt with licensing as a partner for almost 5 years now), so I'm just in the habit of those things being regionally allocated.

The point is they have a mechanic in place to identify how a user is connected that can be used for preventing non-PS2 users from getting a free copy of the software if they wanted to extend an offer for a copy of another paltform's software for the express purpose of migrating away from the PS2.

[Romanova]

The point is they have a mechanic in place to identify how a user is connected that can be used for preventing non-PS2 users from getting a free copy of the software if they wanted to extend an offer for a copy of another paltform's software for the express purpose of migrating away from the PS2.

ummm yes and no though. Yes you couldn't say install FFXI on the Wii because of what you just explained. But we're talking Ps2-> Ps3 here which is completely possible even considering what you said.

You can already play ffxi on the ps3 (I do). The only thing that stops them is things like hardrives n' ram n' such (<-basic) which would go directly to the ps3 anyway. They have the capacity to create more memory than a ps2 can handle program-wise, but they obviously wouldn't because people wouldn't be able to install it. You'd still be able to install it on your ps3 though.

[RAIST]

ummm yes and no though. Yes you couldn't say install FFXI on the Wii because of what you just explained. But we're talking Ps2-> Ps3 here which is completely possible even considering what you said.

You can already play ffxi on the ps3 (I do). The only thing that stops them is things like hardrives n' ram n' such (<-basic) which would go directly to the ps3 anyway. They have the capacity to create more memory than a ps2 can handle program-wise, but they obviously wouldn't because people wouldn't be able to install it. You'd still be able to install it on your ps3 though.

but it would still be using the PS2 specific installation media and client, and get the PS2 specific updates. So, it would still be identifiable as a PS2 user from the client software perspective. Running FFXI on a Mac via Windows is still running the Windows client, not a Mac client.

Edit:
The point of the post is to isolate the PS2 client from the rest, provide the incentive to migrate by developing only for the higher platforms, provide additional incentive by providing an offer to get the software either for free or at cost and using something specific to the PS2 client to ID them to avoid fraud abuse, and gently phase out support for the PS2 client.