Artifact Armor 4 idea

[Leonlionheart]

PLD is fixed.

It sucks in Abyssea, so what? So does DRK SAM SCH PUP RNG DRG RDM COR BST SMN.

It's pretty much necessary for Voidwatch, which is the brunt of all other content currently worth doing.

[zataz]

random plz

[Francisco]

Couple of random points that pertain to the last few pages... using extreme imaginary cases to make my point.

- I'd rather kill a tough NM or obtain a certain number of items with difficulty to obtain a really nice piece of gear.

- A system where we need to obtain one rare/ex item through mining, use it to synthesize a piece of equipment and obtain a piece of gear with the following augments:

ONE OF: Accuracy +1~8, Critical Hit Damage +1~5%, Attack +1~8
ONE OF: STR +1~5, AGI +1~5, DEX +1~5, INT +1~5, MND +1~5, VIT +1~5, CHR +1~5
ZERO TO ONE OF: Store TP +1~5, Subtle Blow +1~5, HP+1~12, MP +1~12

...would be pretty unacceptable at this point in the games life. Everyone would want a STR+5 Crit+5 Store TP+5 piece, no one would ever get it due to crap like Attack+4, INT+3 HP+3, or whatever...

I'd rather do something more concrete and just get STR+4, Crit+4, Store TP+4, or whatever.

[Lilia]

static
random

[Atomic_Skull]

The only thing we need to know is this. It means all of you will QQ regarless of the choice. Either static are going to be easily obtainable and will suck or if you want worthwhile gear you need to work. I'm sure either choice will suck but at least I'm happy with the dev attitude.

I don't mind it being hard to obtain. I worked my ass off to self fund a mandau for years and I wouldn't have had it any other way. The harder it is to obtain the more awesome it is when you finally attain it.

[Arcon]

I don't mind it being hard to obtain. I worked my ass off to self fund a mandau for years and I wouldn't have had it any other way. The harder it is to obtain the more awesome it is when you finally attain it.

FFXI had many aspects like that and I loved them all. Sad how most of it is gone these days. I play for achievements mostly. I know it's different for every person, but it's just how I work. That's why the new stuff annoys me so much.

[MarkovChain]

- I'd rather kill a tough NM or obtain a certain number of items with difficulty to obtain a really nice piece of gear.

Start leveling synergy, naow.

[Asymptotic]

Why not allow two upgrade systems?

1.) An initial upgrade to upgrade Relic+1 to Relic+2 giving static stats.
2.) The ability to further upgrade Relic+2 equipment via random stats from synergy.

Best of both worlds. Requires a little more programming on your part, but it offers so much more potential.

[Camiie]

You do not consider it effort or determination merely because you don't want to consider it as such. Effort is Effort, Determination is Determination, rather its effort and determination to get that perfect Augment you want, getting the tatters/items, Synthing/whatever, and trying until you succeed... Or Determination and effort to get that drop you want.

Look in the face of someone who went 1/100 on their ideal Synergy Augment and try to tell them what they did was not effort or determination, See what they say, Because I bet they would think that that augment is the fruition of their labor.

I was merely trying to say that random and effort are not synonyms, but people often treat them as such.

Maybe you aren't like this, but all too often people only see their preferred method of obtaining gear as the valid way. If it's not random or doesn't require 18 people or more then it's not earned. If it's gear you get from a questline (including non-empyrean magian) or points/tokens or lowmanable NMs, then it's just free gear and required no work whatsoever. That's the vibe I'm getting from some folks in this thread.

[Karbuncle]

I was merely trying to say that random and effort are not synonyms, but people often treat them as such.

Maybe you aren't like this, but all too often people only see their preferred method of obtaining gear as the valid way. If it's not random or doesn't require 18 people or more then it's not earned. If it's gear you get from a questline (including non-empyrean magian) or points/tokens or lowmanable NMs, then it's just free gear and required no work whatsoever. That's the vibe I'm getting from some folks in this thread.

I should point out, over time, I think i can accept Static augments, As long as they're worthwhile content. I don't want this content to be dead on arrival. Your average player won't spend needless hours for a marginal +1DEX on Assassin's Bonnet when it will not even beat current Abyssea level 80 gear.

However, if it was really difficult and Great armor, but static, I'd be okay!