Artifact Armor 4 idea

[Thala]

Static too

Yes, but I can typically determine roughly how long a set goal would take me personally. Random doesn't have that luxury.

[Francisco]

Static too except they can't take a single day. I'm not sure why you all think you are going to get the static gears quickly. Look at Einherjar ampulas for the various gear the event offers. It's typically what you'll want for static. Initially you would get 500 ampulas per tier I *win*, knowing that you did not win everytime. On average in a decent LS you would get one item per 3 months. Why would it be any different ? Several month of grinding dynamis dayly to fill the quota of points. On top of my head the other gear they released in exchange of points were assault gear, where you would get like 800 AP per assault in a static, which would be 20 runs for a piece, or 3 weeks, or 4 months minimum for a full assault set.

I don't think you will be able to grind the gear abyssea-style like you would for the final stage of an empyreal weapon (like killing 40 draguas which you can do in a day or two with chain brews). This time it's dynamis, it has entry limitation including a maximum time limit. It probably means that you will only be able to progress a little every day. I'd rather try my luck from time to time rather than be forced to log every day for 3 months to get a piece of crap that will by no way be decent (relic are mostly junk) .

We'll see.

I think SE is taking the "anyone can do anything" route with most things now - even aside from Abyssea, the most recent content (Voidwatch, WoE and Neo-Dynamis) are all small group friendly and for lack of a major "grind" piece of gear. No one is really excluded from new content due to claiming (kings), cost (relic) or absurd requirements (mythic).

The only grind in abyssea is going after colorful souls - and that's due to the VNMs being camped nearly 24/7.

I can't see them adding content at this point that'll take absurd amounts of time to complete. I don't think many players are going to invest into a long term goal in FFXI at this point, and most are happy with the short term goals they can wrap up nicely before the next version update.

[MarkovChain]

I think SE is taking the "anyone can do anything" route with most things now - even aside from Abyssea, the most recent content (Voidwatch, WoE and Neo-Dynamis) are all small group friendly and for lack of a major "grind" piece of gear. No one is really excluded from new content due to claiming (kings), cost (relic) or absurd requirements (mythic).

I think you don't play, seriously. What you describe is the state the game you WISH. Since 2006 the entire game is almost entirely low man friendly (sky,limbus,salvage,assault,MMM,bcnms..). Major lack of grind ? ARE YOU KINNDING ME ? 75 dragua scales, 50 chloris bud, 50 ulhuadshi, realllllllly ? No claiming issues ? Are you joking ? Some NM like that tiger in uleguerand are perma claimed and most 10' repop NM are camped 24/24. Noone is excluded from relic ? I think you are smoking to be honest because even with a party of 6 you are looking at one month of daily grinding to get a relic....

I can't see them adding content at this point that'll take absurd amounts of time to complete. I don't think many players are going to invest into a long term goal in FFXI at this point, and most are happy with the short term goals they can wrap up nicely before the next version update.

They have never released long time events except for relics. Look it took you 6 months to get just full AF3+2, it's about the same time to get a full salvage set back in the day.

[Francisco]

I think you don't play, seriously. What you describe is the state the game you WISH.

No, I described the game for what it is. Anyone with two friends can do anything worthwhile in FFXI right now with reasonable effort.

Since 2006 the entire game is almost entirely low man friendly (sky,limbus,salvage,assault,MMM,bcnms..).

Basically what I said... pretty much anything can be obtained through those events with ease - permitting it actually drops or the NM shows up (lolBees).

Major lack of grind ? ARE YOU KINNDING ME ? 75 dragua scales, 50 chloris bud, 50 ulhuadshi, realllllllly ?

You're changing words around now. I said "lack of a major grind", not a major lack of grind... there is a difference. I wouldn't call an empyrean a "major grind", with the exception of harp/shield. Even still, those are not even close to being on par with the work required for a relic or mythic.

No claiming issues ? Are you joking ? Some NM like that tiger in uleguerand are perma claimed and most 10' repop NM are camped 24/24.

All relevant NMs either have multiple sources for the seals they drop, multiple pops or can have their KIs gold boxed.

Noone is excluded from relic ? I think you are smoking to be honest because even with a party of 6 you are looking at one month of daily grinding to get a relic....

Learn to use reading comprehension before you argue a point. I said no one is excluded from NEW CONTENT - in the way they were excluded from OLD CONTENT due to claiming (which excluded people from kings), cost (which excluded people from relics), and absurd requirements (which excluded people from mythics). Really Pchan, if you can't read properly, don't bother arguing.

They have never released long time events except for relics.

And mythics.

Look it took you 6 months to get just full AF3+2,

Wrong, and stop trying to change the subject, Pchan. You're the one who quit in June 2010 because you were mad over abyssea. You're the one who berates people for never having a relic, even though you also never had a relic. You're the one who ran around "Ash*ttea" for months in full usukane ("the dream will never die!")... or do you deny it?

it's about the same time to get a full salvage set back in the day.

There is no rough estimate on how long it takes to get a full salvage set, especially back in the day. It could take 1 month with luck, or two years with terrible luck. AF3+2 can be done in 5 days - if you do one piece per day, which is very reasonable. You could do more pieces in a day, sure - but I'm thinking more towards casual, "let's not sit here for 10 hours" style play.

[Nala]

Static too except they can't take a single day. I'm not sure why you all think you are going to get the static gears quickly. Look at Einherjar ampulas for the various gear the event offers. It's typically what you'll want for static. Initially you would get 500 ampulas per tier I *win*, knowing that you did not win everytime. On average in a decent LS you would get one item per 3 months. Why would it be any different ? Several month of grinding dynamis dayly to fill the quota of points. On top of my head the other gear they released in exchange of points were assault gear, where you would get like 800 AP per assault in a static, which would be 20 runs for a piece, or 3 weeks, or 4 months minimum for a full assault set.

I don't think you will be able to grind the gear abyssea-style like you would for the final stage of an empyreal weapon (like killing 40 draguas which you can do in a day or two with chain brews). This time it's dynamis, it has entry limitation including a maximum time limit. It probably means that you will only be able to progress a little every day. I'd rather try my luck from time to time rather than be forced to log every day for 3 months to get a piece of crap that will by no way be decent (relic are mostly junk) .

but in a static case you know what to expect and you know how close your getting to finishing/obtaining what you've strived for, a random system you may never get even close to what you want in 3 months and be out alot of time and resources with nothing to show for it, or you can get the perfect result your very first try. personally ive never been that lucky nor do i care to contend with such a system, i'd rather work harder and know that i'll be rewarded for it then worry weather im wasting 60k+ gil a pop every time.

[hiko]

Static too except they can't take a single day. I'm not sure why you all think you are going to get the static gears quickly. .

i'd rather spend 50 hour of playtime working on my static aug than spending 2h to get item to try random and get crap then repeaty it X times.
static case after 25h I know i've done half the work
random case after 25h i'm exactly at the same point than when i started

[Thala]

I have never liked random stats. I like approaching a goal and being able to plan it properly. Random stats can take a day or take a year. I have spent so much time trying to get the Facio body of my dreams since it was first introduced, but to no avail. I also dislike synergy. I have spent years trying to get WW to 99.7, and I'm still trying for that last .3, and that's just crystal -> recipe -> go. I have absolutely no desire to invest in synergy which is a substantially more involved process. I will pretty much have no interest in any upgrades that involve synergy.

Reposting. Synergy was just turning the knife, so I stand by my stance in favor of statics.

[Rosalie]

Need to store junk on Porter Moogle. Static please.

[Anathiel]

Static please. ^_^

[Xellith]

Well Camate the collector of rare pog slammers. I do believe the mob has spoken and the answer is pretty much a landslide in the direction of something static.