Artifact Armor 4 idea

[Eric]

I don't understand why the developers have always been so clueless as to what the user population wants. The fact that they even offered the option for "random" is a testament to this. An overwhelming majority of people have made it clear that we want the security of knowing that our work is paying off.

I'm glad that these forums are here so that the devs can change their attitudes towards the game based on what they see.

[MarkovChain]

I don't understand why the developers have always been so clueless as to what the user population wants. The fact that they even offered the option for "random" is a testament to this. An overwhelming majority of people have made it clear that we want the security of knowing that our work is paying off.

I'm glad that these forums are here so that the devs can change their attitudes towards the game based on what they see.

From reading this thread "the playerbase" wants :

- static because you think they will be easier to get (they claimed otherwise : this looks like killing Arch DL one hundred times)
- not synergy because they did not level it.
- storable because they don't care on the item anyway.
- they want static and also good stats even though the dev said the opposite.

derp derp weaker must automatically mean 50% why did I get booted from BG again?

Obviously 50% is a maximum. The dev post is full of "BALANCE" terminology. Good means hard, average means easy, is what I understood basically. I'd rather be pimp in salvage gear than wear the same AF3 gear as everyone else. If the the static stats suck, which they will, nobody will do the event, there will be no variety in the game AGAIN, etc.

[Leonlionheart]

Obviously 50% is a maximum. The dev post os full of "BALANCE" terminology. Good means hard, avergae means easy, is what I understood basically. I'd rather have be pimp in salvage gear than wear the same AF3 gear as everyone else. If the the static stats suck, which they will, nobody will do the event, there will be no variety in the game AGAIN, etc.

So in the same paragraph you say that you would rather wear worse gear (Salvage), and that if the gear isn't better than current (AF3) no one will do it.

You're so silly!

[Leonlionheart]

Real life application:
Work for 2 weeks, have a chance at getting paid, could get payed 0$, could get payed 1,000$.

or

Work for 2 weeks, get payed 500$.

I like to sleep in a bed, and I like knowing that I will get to sleep in a bed because of my work.

[MarkovChain]

Stop asking for static and good stats already they already said no.

[MarkovChain]

You are not bright. It's an analogy.

From reading the devs post we can be certain that :

* relic +2 will be macro pieces ("enhances berserk")
* job specific augments : aka NOT a huge pool of augments like sky or fov, very specific.
* static < random

To me it means that for instance a WAR relic could get TWO augments (or a low number, maybe one)

if static : berserk +2%, agressor +2%, you have to kill a WAR NM in dynamis one hunded times.
if random : berserk +1~5%, agressor +1~5%, you have 1% chance of getting max augments but 100% chance of getting 1% or more.

[Leonlionheart]

You are not bright. It's an analogy.

From reading the devs post we can be certain that :

* relic +2 will be macro pieces ("enhances berserk")
* job specific augments : aka NOT a huge pool of augments like sky or fov, very specific.
* static < random

To me it means that for instance a WAR relic could get TWO augments (or a low number, maybe one)

if static : berserk +2%, agressor +2%, you have to kill a WAR NM in dynamis one hunded times.
if random : berserk +1~5%, agressor +1~5%, you have 1% chance of getting max augments but 100% chance of getting 1% or more.

You do realize that 1% chance of getting something will end up being like trying to get K club to drop, right?

The drop rate on PCC from Under Observation is probably around 10%, but you can do it 500 times and not see one PCC. Except this gear will not be AH-able, meaning you just get lucky, you don't really work towards anything. You can have shit luck but work harder than EVERYONE else and still have something worse than someone who got the drop on accident and then augmented it and got perfect augs.

[Seriha]

If people want static with good stats, then MAYBE the devs should actually consider it instead of just outright shooting it down. Customer satisfaction isn't a bad thing to have, and while you can hypothetically chibi-flail about how effort wouldn't match the reward in one way or the other, suggesting impossibility pretty much disqualifies you from any attempt at talking about balance. And lolbalance in FFXI.

[MarkovChain]

It's not a poll on "do you want static with good stats" so you are wrong and you won't get it. Let me quote the dev post

・In order to get good stats, time must be spent working towards completion

Kill an NM 100 times.

・Depending on the stats, the time needed will be adjusted

100 times for the crap, 200 for the mediocre.

・Can predict the time needed to obtain the item

100 days

・Won’t be able to add the stats of your dreams since it is static

lawl it means you can include the stats of your dream in the random

・Will be able to store your equipment

Since they will suck, don't worry because you will be able to store them !

Random Stats Approach
・In order to get the best stats, you will have to repeat the process many times

In order to have average stats not much work is needed, but if you are dedicated enough to your job you can be special.

・The amount of time spent and the stats received aren’t necessarily equal

bad luck

・Have a possibility of getting the item in a shorter amount of time than static stat items

good luck

・There will be room to get higher stats than static stat items

random stats will not suck if try a few times and will be awesome if you try a lot.

[Arcon]

It's not a poll on "do you want static with good stats" so you are wrong and you won't get it.

Says you. And no one believes you, and if they do, they shouldn't. You're worse than a regular troll, you're a clueless troll. But it's fun quoting you.

Kill an NM 100 times.

Groundless assumption.

100 times for the crap, 200 for the mediocre.

Groundless assumption.

100 days

Groundless assumption.

lawl it means you can include the stats of your dream in the random

Wrong inference. It means you won't get specific stats you're looking for, but stats that SE decided to give you.

Since they will suck, don't worry because you will be able to store them !

Wrong inference. It means SE realizes PS2 limitations suck and wanna give us to be able to play more than two fully geared jobs.

In order to have average stats not much work is needed, but if you are dedicated enough to your job you can be special.

Wrong inference and interpretation. It says nothing about how much work is needed for crap augments. Even the best augments could still be crap. And if you're dedicated and do it every day, every night for the rest of your life, you might still have it worse than the guy who got it on his first try.

bad luck

Predictable bad luck. Some people will lose, others will win. It will drive people further apart.

good luck

See above.

random stats will not suck if try a few times and will be awesome if you try a lot.

Groundless assumption. Even now best augments on the best pieces are largely useless. Only a handful augmented items with extremely lucky augments beat regular items, and it was always like this.

You know nothing of logic (and probabilities, as it turns out). You disgrace your name.