Bard ~ Job Manifesto

[Creelo]

~Will Massacre Elegy be added?

We have plans to. However, when considering the stats, we are planning to make it so this isn’t a song that can be used by just anyone.

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Also in response to your feedback about the seeming lack of power of Gjallarhorn, the development team mentioned that there is a difference in song accuracy between Gjallarhorn and Daurdabla, and when casting songs on enemies, Gjallarhorn wins out. During the next version update it will also be possible to further enhance the Gjallarhorn.

If the note about Massacre Elegy is in regards to making it a -Gjallarhorn Only- song, you will have made me and maaaaaaaaany other Brds (and people in general) extremely happy. That would be the perfect buff for Gjallarhorn.

HOWEVER.

As excited as I was about the part with Massacre Elegy, I couldn't believe what I was reading about the Dev. Team's comments about "Gjallarhorn's lack of power."

FIRST: THE REASON WHY GJALLARHORN IS MORE ACCURATE THAN DAURDABLA IS BECAUSE IT'S A WIND INSTRUMENT. We've known for literally 10 years now that wind instruments are naturally more accurate than String instruments. Hell, a lvl 1 Flute is probably more accurate than a Daurdabla when it comes to landing Elegy. X.X (Even considering the +40 skill on Daurdabla).

SECOND: Landing Debuffs isn't really the problem with Gjallarhorn at the moment... A Brd without Gjallarhorn can land songs pretty easily on anything that won't require Elemental Seal (Honestly, the only relevant mobs that really resist Elegy atm are a few of the ToA inspired mobs like Dhorme Khimaira in the Heroes Zones)

THIRD: DOES THE DEV. TEAM REALLY THINK BARD'S ARE DEBUFFING WITH DAURDABLA!?!?!?!? A Bard that has worked hard enough to get through all the Colorless souls/Apademak Horns to complete their Daurdabla is (hopefully) not dumb enough to be using their Daurdabla as a full-time debuff instrument too... Daurdabla is literally only meant for one thing (a really nice "one thing" though), and that's for a Third Buff. We KNOW it's not meant to be used as a Debuff instrument. Seriously, Dev. Team? Seriously?? x.x


I'm really hoping that Massacre Elegy comment alluded to it being given to Gjallarhorn owners, if not... Gjallarhorn's probably screwed. x.x

[Linkn]

I would really like to see Bard have a trait or something to let them walk and cast songs at the same time. It is always an annoyance when someone will move slightly as i'm casting a song or just started to. Would just be nice to be able to close that gap and land the song on them without having to recast it.

[Vagrua]

We will look into this. In regards to Prelude though, depending on the number of party members that have ranged attacks, it might get pretty crazy having to use Pianissimo each time. Is that going to be a problem?

No problem a simple macro can't fix.

[Kit_Katz]

We will look into this. In regards to Prelude though, depending on the number of party members that have ranged attacks, it might get pretty crazy having to use Pianissimo each time. Is that going to be a problem?

Positioning alleviates this problem and even if not, it would be better to Pianissimo one RNG than Prelude 5.

[Kit_Katz]

We are looking into addressing this.

Another thing I hope you could address that was not mentioned. Currently items that have the "Enhance song duration" effect have a higher priority than using Nightingale+Troubadour (hereafter referred to as N/T.)

To explain further, usually songs overwrite one another based on the duration remaining on the song. But when using N/T then singing a song you are unable to overwrite a song already in effect that was sung with the aforementioned equipment on, even though the new song would have a longer duration. Due to this I am no longer able to fully utalize my N/T merits unless I use them for a fresh set in a zerg or similar instance because my normal gear has the "lengthen duration" effect on it.

[Covenant]

I've just thought of something...as we approach lvl99 why does bard still have the separate "song" paths? Would you foggier that a "grandmaster" bard could wieve a song that boosts and have several effects?

With the Abyssea atma system, we have a basis of what I'm requesting. A song that has 3 effects...1 major, 1 medium, and 1 small effect. For example, rather than simply giving bard Mage ballad 4, SE could give a song that gives effect 1 major refresh, 1 medium conserve mp, and 1 minor MaB. Another song could give ACC major, ATT medium, and 1 crit minor.

I'm not a bard, but this simple change could make bards amazing. Not to mention SE could still keep the "2 song" only model.

[Glamdring]

I've just thought of something...as we approach lvl99 why does bard still have the separate "song" paths? Would you foggier that a "grandmaster" bard could wieve a song that boosts and have several effects?

With the Abyssea atma system, we have a basis of what I'm requesting. A song that has 3 effects...1 major, 1 medium, and 1 small effect. For example, rather than simply giving bard Mage ballad 4, SE could give a song that gives effect 1 major refresh, 1 medium conserve mp, and 1 minor MaB. Another song could give ACC major, ATT medium, and 1 crit minor.

I'm not a bard, but this simple change could make bards amazing. Not to mention SE could still keep the "2 song" only model.

the problem with what you suggest is the same problem bards have always had... the other players. See, most players seem to be concerned with only what their character needs, not what the party needs. We only get 1 pianissimo, and even if we got several we can't change the fact that we would be so busy getting all 5 seperate buffs done that we wouldn't have time to sleep, elegy, threnody and finale the mob.

In addition, if we make bard songs multidimensional in effect you run into the same prob as we do with atma, where for your job 1 effect is great, 1 is an "uh... ok" and 1 is usually a "what the hell is that?"

Honestly, this is why I didn't brd in meripos except for very close friends; I'm not interested in doing 90% of the work and still having people bitching that our chain broke on the 123rd kill because I stopped to heal myself from my remaining 30 HP since noone will cure the puller/buffer/sleeper/MP whore. Seriously, all a DDs did in those pts is engage, then AFK; I was lucky if I could even get anyone to 'voke off me in a pick-up pt and lullaby/elegy seem to pull alot of hate considering how many mobs would still came after me even AFTER the DD hit it.

Oh, and good idea looking at the accuracy determination instead of addressing through merits or other gear Devs; tired of having to address faulty elements in game mechanics by sacrificing a needed equipment/merit slot instead of fixing the error. Don't pull on bard what you are doing to pup by making us use our limited resources to fix inate problems with the job's relevant code.

[Lushipur]

what about another song effect other than daudabla?
maybe a new merit ability?

[Supersun]

If that doesn't say that the G Horn is getting Massacre Elegy at 95 I don't know what does.

[Ashay]

Bard really should just get a natural third song as all it has is buffing and light support.