Update Notes, can you release them soon?

[Rosina]

i hope augest is for both ffxi and ffxiv patches ffxiv is getting chocobo finaly in 1.19 (yay) I just hope they list the actual job changes. All they list was "we might do this or this, or this and this"

nothing in that listing was really concrete.

[Puck]

Because you are the only one complaining, right?

Reading comprehension failure again. You're pretty bad at reading, aren't you?
Read my post again:

People who are facing the very real possibility of never playing playing again due to the billing changes aren't gonna give 2 sh*ts about new update info.

I never said anything about myself. In fact, I'm in no such position. I simply pointed out that a growing number of PEOPLE (plural, you see) are more concerned with the fact that they may possibly never be able to play again due to circumstances beyond their control.
When I said "I never said 'quit'" it was because somehow you took that statement and turned it into "people are quitting over this, that's a bad reason to quit, crybabies, blah blah blah," to paraphrase what you said.

Seriously, focus. Because you're arguing about things that are not even relevant to my statements.

You accuse me of not reading but you yourself haven't read anything. Square Enix already stated that there will be no extra charge to your bill (no hidden fees from Click and Buy) if you use them to pay for this game. The only way you will get for services outside of FFXI. You know, when you actually use Click and Buy for something else.

Again. This is not the issue. What you said is irrelevant.

This is not what's forcing many people to quit. You're blind to this because you're not actually reading any of the anecdotes people are sharing about their personal circumstances and why their banks will not let them use Click and Buy, their form of payment is not accepted by Click and Buy, it isn't accepted in their region when previously they had no problems paying SE directly, etc.

For proof of your indifference toward your fellow player look no further than this thread and your reasons for starting it. It's essentially: "Release some update notes so I don't have to hear these people whine about their problems." Look around. Actually give a damn.

[Korpg]

Wow, Puck, sarcasm really fails on you.

Good for you, you won't quit because you aren't from that list of countries Click and Buy won't accept transactions from. Which means for those who are from a country on that list, there is no other method of payment....oh wait (in case you missed it, this is sarcasm again).

People who are against this have stated that the reason why they are mad is the principle of the change. That is still a weak excuse because the change is going to happen, and the principle of the change is beyond them. We don't know why they are changing, but we can all agree that this is not for malicious intent. They didn't choose Click and Buy because it has a list of countries that they agree should not play this game, they choose Click and Buy because it offered the least amount of issues with the least amount of cost....most likely. I'm not sure why they choose Click and Buy over Paypal.

Why should I morn people who are complaining over nothing really? Most of the people here complaining are just jumping in the mob as it grows.

[Panthera]

It's impossible to tell an accidental troll from the genuine article. An excess of misspellings and contentions without foundations may be the indication of a lack of education, or an inability to benefit from an education. Whether such trolling is calculated stupidity or genuine mental lurching is neither here nor there. No amount of reason will sway a deeply held conviction, whether it's genuinely felt or not. While they have the right to express their views, we are not obliged to listen. There comes a point when you've heard enough, and the game is over. I have. The ignore list was created for a reason. You know who I'm talking about. Shame too, it was such a cool sig.

On topic, payment issues not withstanding, I'd like to see what we're gonna be paying for. Even if they payments are made easier, will the content be worth it?

I heard awhile back about an all-in-one instrument for bard through Synergy. I'm hoping we'll see it at last.

[Korpg]

It's impossible to tell an accidental troll from the genuine article. An excess of misspellings and contentions without foundations may be the indication of a lack of education, or an inability to benefit from an education. Whether such trolling is calculated stupidity or genuine mental lurching is neither here nor there. No amount of reason will sway a deeply held conviction, whether it's genuinely felt or not. While they have the right to express their views, we are not obliged to listen. There comes a point when you've heard enough, and the game is over. I have. The ignore list was created for a reason. You know who I'm talking about. Shame too, it was such a cool sig.

...ok, what is the point of this post, and why did you post it here?

[Panthera]

...ok, what is the point of this post, and why did you post it here?

I wasn't referring to you (not on this anyway :P )

I don't want to name names, but someone here is taking it upon themselves to stick up for SE, and they're doing it badly. Worse yet, they're spamming it. It just goes on and on, and I'm tired of hearing it. I can ignore list the person in question, but people are feeding the trolls--whether they intend to be trolling or not. The troll doesn't work for SE, and their opinion doesn't matter more than anyone elses. It's a vocal minority of one that's controlling the conversation. The way to take back control is to /ignore them. As we all know, the only way to win with a troll is to not play.

Don't forget, I'm on your side on this one! What the heck are these vague daily rewards they keep talking about? I'm all for increasing the level caps, it helps playability, but what kind of content is there going to be for when we hit 75?

[Korpg]

I wasn't referring to you (not on this anyway :P )

I don't want to name names, but someone here is taking it upon themselves to stick up for SE, and they're doing it badly. Worse yet, they're spamming it. It just goes on and on, and I'm tired of hearing it. I can ignore list the person in question, but people are feeding the trolls--whether they intend to be trolling or not. The troll doesn't work for SE, and their opinion doesn't matter more than anyone elses. It's a vocal minority of one that's controlling the conversation. The way to take back control is to /ignore them. As we all know, the only way to win with a troll is to not play.

Don't forget, I'm on your side on this one! What the heck are these vague daily rewards they keep talking about? I'm all for increasing the level caps, it helps playability, but what kind of content is there going to be for when we hit 75?

I figured you weren't talking about me, but still.

Anyway, I hope they announce something soon. They already said that they will be reviewing their new payment options to satisfy the people screaming about it, so I just still want something else to talk about.