in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Rosina]

also who ever keeps changing the tags to insult me. Please drop oit. I fixed my post when I was corrected about my info. And fixed it to only address the people who can use the options but still throwing a tantrum. I suggest you look up japanese banking and currency which is partialy why we those outside of japan are not paying SE directly.

not many moo are international, or have international servers. Most are by region. Only difference is playonline was a middleman for us to pay for ffxi. And that is getting phased out. we will only use it as a boot up to play ffxi.

I'm no stranger to mmo changing their billing practices. Or using similar methods to pay. For those who can, get to know your options.
For those who can't, you have my sympathy, please contact SE directly to talk it with them.

[Tamoa]

also who ever keeps changing the tags to insult me. Please drop oit. I fixed my post when I was corrected about my info. And fixed it to only address the people who can use the options but still throwing a tantrum. I suggest you look up japanese banking and currency which is partialy why we those outside of japan are not paying SE directly.

not many moo are international, or have international servers. Most are by region. Only difference is playonline was a middleman for us to pay for ffxi. And that is getting phased out. we will only use it as a boot up to play ffxi.

I'm no stranger to mmo changing their billing practices. Or using similar methods to pay. For those who can, get to know your options.
For those who can't, you have my sympathy, please contact SE directly to talk it with them.

Re. the bolded part: where on earth do you get that from?????? If their banking system is so different from every other country in this world, and the different currencies are such a major problem, how do Japanese companies even manage to do international business at all?

If you are going to make claims like that, support them by posting some links that will prove what you are saying is correct. Otherwise, stop talking out your rear.

[Rosina]

Re. the bolded part: where on earth do you get that from?????? If their banking system is so different from every other country in this world, and the different currencies are such a major problem, how do Japanese companies even manage to do international business at all?

If you are going to make claims like that, support them by posting some links that will prove what you are saying is correct. Otherwise, stop talking out your rear.

I would If i could, yen is calculated different then the usd. If no one is willing to look it up themselves, not my problem. Just proves how much blind rage everyone is having. Here is the thing all point which include a personal attack or insult to me is pretty much invalid.

Once you start acting like a child, your opinion is worth less then the money you pay for to use the internent. There are better ways to go about your dislike. So far now we have ragers vs se appologist wars.
why? Why over something so petty?

[Korpg]

I would If i could, yen is calculated different then the usd. If no one is willing to look it up themselves, not my problem. Just proves how much blind rage everyone is having. Here is the thing all point which include a personal attack or insult to me is pretty much invalid.

Once you start acting like a child, your opinion is worth less then the money you pay for to use the internent. There are better ways to go about your dislike. So far now we have ragers vs se appologist wars.
why? Why over something so petty?

Actually Rosina, it goes deeper than that. You can't really explain Japanese banking system without doing extensive research (I did while I was in Japan for 9 months, I had first hand accounts plus translated reports while I was there).

I find that the Japanese Banking system much more secure because of the society and culture in place there. It is hard to break into a bank and steal money in Japan because of the shame it would place on the robbers in question, although some people can get beyond that and still successfully do it. Same as to do scams in a Japanese culture.

Americans don't have the cultural shame placed on individuals as the Japanese do, so they don't see the ethical and moral issues as well as Japanese can. They don't think twice or more when pulling off a scam. So it is easier for an American to rip off people. Which is why banks in America has stronger safeguards than most other countries.

Japan's strongest safeguard is themselves.

That is the basis/brunt of my research, although it goes way beyond that. But I won't bore anyone with the minor or major details.

[Romanova]

Once you start acting like a child, your opinion is worth less then the money you pay for to use the internent.

So...you're saying your opinion is worthless? Gotcha. You've acted like a bigger child (and type like one) than those you are accusing.


Not all of us are so stuck on FFXI that we have played for 8 years straight. I was going to take a break for KoTOR, probably go back to WoW after that, etc. Sooner or later I will probably go back to FFXI, but that could be two years from now when my crysta would have expired. It is not the first time I've taken over a two year break from FFXI, it is not out of the realm of impossibility.

Being forced to play just so I can "even out" is ridiculous. You think that because there's a solution, there's no reason to complain. I say, just because there is a solution, doesn't make that solution a good one by far and people have every right to ask for a better one.

[Rosina]

So...you're saying your opinion is worthless? Gotcha. You've acted like a bigger child (and type like one) than those you are accusing.


Not all of us are so stuck on FFXI that we have played for 8 years straight. I was going to take a break for KoTOR, probably go back to WoW after that, etc. Sooner or later I will probably go back to FFXI, but that could be two years from now when my crysta would have expired. It is not the first time I've taken over a two year break from FFXI, it is not out of the realm of impossibility.

Being forced to play just so I can "even out" is ridiculous. You think that because there's a solution, there's no reason to complain. I say, just because there is a solution, doesn't make that solution a good one by far and people have every right to ask for a better one.

sorry but I haven't played this game 8 year straight. And i have yet to actually insult anyone. If anything I stated that i dislike the current attitude of the forum

[Romanova]

And i have yet to actually insult anyone.

That's not the only way to "act like a child"...

You have insanely bad and "childlike" behavior. Simply put, don't dish out and attack people for not reading, when you can't handle people attacking you when you get called out.

And again, who cares if you can ultimately balance it out, it is not a good solution. We want better. As others said this economy it terrible atm, if you think its wise to just waste money even if you currently can afford to do so, then you really are a child who doesn't know how the real world works.

[Korpg]

Re. the bolded part: where on earth do you get that from?????? If their banking system is so different from every other country in this world, and the different currencies are such a major problem, how do Japanese companies even manage to do international business at all?

Because most businesses use $USD as the basis of their transactions, and it is easier to keep track of. Although it depends on the accounting system in place. I'm sure that JP GAAP allows the conversion accounts for all other countries, but since $USD is, or was, the safest currency, they use it as a buffer for other countries. $USD is by far the most used currency in the world.

It is kindof complicated to explain, and is even more complicated for people to read who are not used to accounting standards and international accounting methods. It takes years of research for accountants to understand the principles behind the methods used by companies to record and report the Foreign Transaction Gain/Loss accounts, and I will never do it justice to try to explain it in such a short post.

But you can do the research yourself, you just got to know the general standards first though. Might as well become an accountant if you do.